The Broca Food Market, 209-211 Mantle Road

The Broca Food Market, west of the station, is finally opening for business.

The sister business to The Broca cafe, its contents have remained a closely-guarded secret until now, but owner Erin has finally spilled the beans. It will be a "community green grocers and grocery store, selling a load of delicious fresh fruit and vegetables, eggs and milk from a kent farm co-op."

Its official opening is December 13th to coincide with the Christmas market on Coulgate Street.

The chip and pin machine isn't up and running yet, so it's cash only until the 13th.

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Tamsin said...

Brief comment on plastic bags - how compostable is compostable. Read a disquieting article in New Scientist recently to the effect that even the "bio-degradable" bags are an issue when the microscopic degraded bits get into the sea - they mess with the plankton eco-system that is at the bottom of the whole marine food-chain - help!
On light bulbs - the low energy ones did not make any appreciable difference in places like Scandinavia - the heating costs went up. The heat output of standard light bulbs has an appreciable effect where it is really really cold.
On heat wastage - it is not so much the office lights, but how any public building is desperately overheated. Went to the "Access Point" in Laurence House yesterday and the blast of hot air as you approached was postively uncomfortable.

Jt said...

People don't really care about this issue, it's terrible but it's like famine in Africa, what can you do?

Our economy is built on obsolescence and fmcg.

It's too big of an issue to address, even the Greens shy away from it.

max said...

My economy is based on making things last actually.

fred vest said...

"Went to the "Access Point" in Laurence House yesterday and the blast of hot air as you approached was postively uncomfortable"

was steve 'sir steve' bullock doing a meet and greet?

MB said...

My entire wardrobe is based on making things last. As a result I do look a little shabby....sorry.

max said...

Shabby is my middle name.

fred vest said...

i've often been known to use the same arguments over and over again

max said...

In fact you were saying the same about plastic bags yesterday.

Headhunter said...

Yeah i read that compostable plastic bags are not really that compostable in reality. Often they are made by mixing wood pulp in with the ethylene mix, the wood chip part then decays, but it still leaves the ethylene for the usual thousand years, it's just that it's in millions of tiny fragments rather than in the form of a bag.

I think most people are aware of recycling, low energy bulbs, turning the heating down a degree, turning lights off etc etc at home, but wastage in offices is enormous. It's not just lights but, as you say Tamsin, it's heating and it's paper and food wastage.

My office for example provides us with Evian or that Italian sparkling water, free for all, provided in hundreds upon hundreds of 1.5 litre plastic bottles. We go through loads of the bloody things every day.

I always find shopping in winter a bit of a chore too, not just for the usual reasons that the shops are busy, but because you leave home wrapped up warm, get used to the cold but then as soon as you step into a shop, the invariably have the heating jacked right up so you instantly start to sweat and hurriedly have to remove layers and then carry them around with you, whilst staff in the shop wear skimpy shirts.

max said...

Coop once used biodegradable bags that just broke down into on awful plastic powder much earlier than you'd expect. The result for me was that I had tiny plastic bits anywhere around the kitchen.

max said...

Yes, bottled water from Italy! Just the thought drives me mad.
I remember having a massive argument with my sister (in Italy) once because of the American cat food she buys.

nobbly brick said...

yeah, they bring puddings down from Yorkshire as well!

max said...

They're ok, they offset carbon emissions by killing people with cholesterol.

Headhunter said...

Interesting concept... Carbon offsetting through reduction in global human population. The fried chicken shops in Brockers are probably carbon negative....

Monkeyboy said...

Hey, just because you're Italian don't think you can dis the Yorkies!

How else are you supposed to mop up the gravy? That's it, I'm roasting a rib of beef for Sunday lunch (with yorkies)

Headhunter said...

Monkeyboy - you always seem to be about to eat or cook some high cholesterol dessert, lump of meat or other rich Italian dish. What's your BMI? You must be enormous. I think you're a candidate for human carbon offsetting.

max said...

Ready, steady...Malthus.

Anonymous Satirist said...

Carbonara offsetting?

Headhunter said...

Yeah but weren't Malthus's essays concerned with food supply as population grew and the relationship between food and population growth? This is a whole new angle - excessive food consumption and use of specific foodstuffs to shorten lifespan and therefore reduce population and environmental damage!

Monkeyboy said...

Now don't be cheeky. Just got back from a quick run around Hilly Fields, it's not what you eat it's how much...OK perhaps a bit of what you eat too.

Had grilled chicken in a pita bread yesterday with some home made tomato, red onion and chilli salsa. Am I forgiven?

max said...

Exactly, not even Malthus saw this one coming.

Yeah, Carbonara offsetting, blowing away the theory the that Italian food is healthy. Just what MB needs after a healthy run.

Monkeyboy said...

Oooohhh... Carbonara. Perhaps at the weekend.

fred vest said...

"This is a whole new angle - excessive food consumption and use of specific foodstuffs to shorten lifespan and therefore reduce population and environmental damage!"

you should run it past these cranks, who in the past have (inadvertently) welcomed a bit of mass eco-euthanasia and the spreading of contagious diseases to wipe out 'surplus' population

www.optimumpopulation.org

Monkeyboy said...

Population control tends to based on(as P J O'Rourke said)

"Far too many of them, just enough of us"

OK, he is a bit right wing but he can be funny.

fred vest said...

spot on that!

Monkeyboy said...

Have you read any PJ O'Rourke? He will wind you RIGHT up, not sure he's as reactionary as he pretends but he does like to stick it up the liberals and lefties. Good for testing your faith and having a guilty snigger.

Monkeyboy said...

You'll like this PJ quote....

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"

P. J. O'Rourke

Ed said...

Sounds like there are some good things happening in Brockers to me. Will finally be taking up residence in the TeaFactory late January after a stint in NYC. Can anyone suggest a local doctor that I can register with?

P.S. I miss the real Hugh.

fred vest said...

i havn't but his quote about the population stuff is increasingly the position of a lot of liberals/greens, only difference is he's joking and they're not!

Monkeyboy said...

You'll hate this quote...

"There's something about Marxism that brings out warts; the only kind of growth this economic system encourages."

Give him a try though, Parliament of Whores is good reading.

fred vest said...

i tend to agree with that quote

marx himself wrote thousands of pages analysing capitalism and foretold lots of the things we've been speaking about on this thread (environmental degradation, exploitation of nature for short term profit, etc..) and a lot of that core analysis is still applicable & relevant today (especially at the moment in relation to crisis & credit) - the problem arose when marxists came along and invented marxism as a religion with them as popes of it - although marx saw that capitalism contained within it the seeds to a more equitable society he paid almost no attention to this, relatively speaking, in what he wrote and even then it was mainly utopian rather than the 'scientific' analysis which he applied to the analysis of capitalism - so that whole project was destined to fail really and ended up giving us the horrors of what we saw in eastern europe and the soviet union and elsewhere

marx got in early when he announced the only thing he knew was that he wasn't a marxist

Anonymous said...

"Monkeyboy said...

Had grilled chicken in a pita bread yesterday with some home made tomato, red onion and chilli salsa. Am I forgiven?
"

Afraid not - the Brockley Eco-mentalists won't like the fact that the tomato and chili won't have been grown locally, organically, in-season or even fair trade.

Have you considered replacing the above spicy foreign foodstuffs with the humble Mung Bean? A hardy little legume, they thrive in muddy puddles and can be harvested and enjoyed all year round - when you're sipping Pimms in summer right through to sipping Gluhwein at Winterval.

Mung the Merciless said...

Give it a rest Anon. You're getting boring.

Headhunter said...

....And you think Mung Beans are grown on a allotment in New Cross do you?! I'm afraid not. As for Gluhwein, well....

Monkeyboy said...

I can report that the Broca shop has a sign inside saying "fresh meat coming soon" so that's sorted. I bought a small duck there today, I'll report back after cooking said water fowl tomorrow.

Bought some bread and a few other bit's and bobs. It may just work, Dandelion Blue is a bit small with a limited range. The shop is big enough to have a wider range once it settles in.

Must admit, I too thought the Bisto was a little incongruous, I'd just pop to Costcutter for that?

Anonymous said...

And to think people laughed when I suggested that the painted ducks on the outside meant that they would have ducks for sale. "Oh no", said the Brockley elite, sipping their mung bean tea.

Maybe it's fair trade Bisto?

Anonymous said...

When I heard about The Broca Market I purposely made an effort to go out of my way and support it.
When I went there was one other shopper and I browsed but could not find what I was looking for. So I asked - but soon wished I hadn't bothered. The staff member was offhand and I got the impression that I was a nuisance for interrupting their restock. Maybe they were having a bad day.
Although I was not impressed I spent some money and did not hold it against them.

I went back a couple of weeks later. I must be a glutton for punishment. Different staff member, same attitude. Well excuse ME for not being able to find the lone jar of peanut butter skulking on a lower shelf at the dingy back of store! I'm sorry that when I looked in the 'DAIRY' fridge (as marked by Broca) I had not understood that milk was not, in fact, dairy and was housed in a third fridge elsewhere. And butter in yet another location. I don't have half an hour to familiarise myself with the vagaries of your store. *Groan*

A bit of basic reshuffling would help - put the fridges in a bank together. Put the peanut butters, jams, honey, molasses etc. in the SAME PLACE. Jeez! If you're going to separate like items in that manner BE PREPARED for some customer confusion and be happy to answer a couple of questions for non-regulars because they are customers too. Get a clue!

From my personal experience I would honestly say that the place is horribly disorganised and badly lit. They could be A LOT friendlier and accepting of different types of customer. I don't think I'll bother going to the other side of the station and bypassing several other shops to be tolerated at the Broca Market. I prefer The Shop on the Hill if I want to fulfill my last minute organic duties. Or I will walk the distance to the excellent health food store in Greenwich market.

Brockley born and bred said...

urrgh you horrible yuppies, please go back to clapham or wherever u came from.

Anonymous said...

'Yuppies'?
Is it the eighties again?

You sound like a wanker. That 'Brockley' enough for ya?

angel said...

i am especially fond of laynie browne’s take in her 2007 book daily sonnets…lovely gentle surprising fun familial. she takes after bernadette mayer…
have you done a sonnet prompt for read/write/poem yet?
online informal

Tamsin said...

Why on this thread? (Although it was fun re-visiting Monkeyboy's eating habits again.) And the link is broken - with the suggested alternative nothing to do with poetry.

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