Malpas Mews completed


Malpas Mews is nearing completion, with a new terrace shielding a small gated community behind it, accessible from Malpas Road. The gate is totally unnecessary but the building is a decent attempt at Victorian pastiche. Work is also underway on a modernist equivalent of this development on Geoffrey Road and it will be interesting to see which is the more successful.

35 comments:

Mb said...

Not normally picky but if you're going fake Victorian at least use timber windows and doors. The uPVC ones jar. Better than the crumbling industrial unit they replaced though.

kolp said...

The notion of a "gated community" really winds me up.

mp said...

it's nice. it's consistent with the style of teh road which is working class victorian...what's the point to carry on with this? maybe the council knows...

drakefell debaser said...

Speaking of gated communities have you seen the new Victorian pastiche development on Jerningham Rd?

The houses are nicely done but I think putting the thing behind gates is shame. I’d be insulted if I lived opposite.

Anonymous said...

Not really a gated community when you can jump over the wall without touching it. Some of the walls for new Brixton developments show what a real gated community looks like.

nathano14 said...

They've been doing this up for years now. But it's really coming together.

Tim said...

What is wrong with living behind gates, and making you home (slightly) more secure?

kolp said...

There's nothing wrong living behind gates or doors to your home, it's gates or doors to your "community".

Anonymous said...

New Cross is ghetto, I would like some high walls.

Anonymous said...

Parts of Lewisham resemble Soweto, with clusters of frightened rich home counties people loving the slum vibe.

Fabhat said...

The wall on Jerningham Rd was kept as there was a wall there for the reservoir. Not sure if they've kept the original wall tho, or built a new one. I think it makes the scale of the houses look a bit odd myself.

Tamsin said...

@dd The wall in Jerningham Road was kept (or in the end replaced) at the behest of the residents who live opposite (or so I have been given to understand).

It did replace a previously existing wall - interesting as being the only example around of garden bond - and the new wall (after a false start) is the same. I think it was first mooted that the original wall should be kept (complete with its sign to an air-raid shelter) but, inevitably, it was not to be.

The houses are still being marketed and the show house open to call in and look around if anyone is curious.

Brockley Nick said...

"Parts of Lewisham resemble Soweto,"

No they don't.

"with clusters of frightened rich home counties people loving the slum vibe."

No there aren't.

drakefell debaser said...

Understood, but I don't think the wall needs to be accompanied by gates. Anyway, there are 3 left which isn't bad given they are on for just shy of a million quid.

Anonymous said...

Ah Nick obviously on speaking terms with every resident in Lewisham

Brockley Nick said...

Don't have to be, it's obviously a moronic, untrue statement that doesn't even stand-up under the weight of its own logic. If they are "loving" the "slum vibe" (there are no slums in Lewisham - if you think there are you either haven't been to Lewisham or haven't been to a slum), they aren't really frightened. And the nice thing about being "rich" is that you get to choose not to live somewhere that frightens you.

More fantasy land stuff from the misanthrope troll community.

max said...

A few weeks ago walking down Jerningham Road I actually thought that high walls like those protect burglars' privacy from the indiscretion of passers by.

Brockley Prisoner said...

Looks suburban and depressing. Like a little slice of Eltham.

Beige Badger said...

Most Victorian houses had fences and gates. If you bother to look you'll notice that they still do.

"Gated" implies fences and gates over head height.
Who cares anyway? Someone has built a beige terrace and you're writing about it?

Anonymous said...

UPV window fan here, they're awesome. Solid and clean year after year.

Anonymous said...

Been to Lewisham, yes. Been to a slum, yes.Irrelevant. Merely pointing out that "no there aren't" is rather a definitive statement which you can't pove. Although I would agree it's highly unlikely.

Brockley Nick said...

@BB -

"Gated" implies fences and gates over head height."

That's right, that's what this will have.

"Who cares anyway? Someone has built a beige terrace and you're writing about it?"

You're half right. I am writing about it, yes. But it's more than a terrace, there is a gated community behind it, which the article attempts to explain and the links expand on.

But yes, it's interesting to me and possibly to others. So I have written about it. It's interesting because it's a development of reasonable scale, it's interesting because it's about what kind of architecture we want to see in Brockley (do we like this kind of pastiche?) and it's interesting because some readers might be interested in living there.

Not interested, don't read it.

Anonymous said...

'there is a gated community behind it, which the article attempts to explain'

Didn't explain it very well. The only gates in the photos are 3 feet tall. Can't see any gates in the links either.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, me the anon here again. I typed that last moany comment in haste - I'm a bit jumpy before I've had my first cup of coffee, LOL!

What I meant to say was:

Thanks for clearing that up. Now I've looked through the other articles I see what you mean, thanks!

Anonymous said...

And of course, I see now why the photos only show the front view - because the rest of it is gated off! I guess that's the problem with gated communities, LOL!

david said...

I think "Victorian pastiche - love it or loathe it?" is an interesting debate. The style keeps enables the streets to maintain a sense of place and consistency at the expense of a freshness or modernity. Personally, I'd like Brockley to be a little more mixed up with some well designed and executed modern buildings to contrast with the Victoriana and Georgian streets. That said, this looks like an example of pastiche done well unlike, say, the new building opposide the Talbot on Tyrwhitt Rd.

Mb said...

Well you say well done, but standing outside the uPVC doors, windows, cladding under the little porch thing and square white plastic down pipes let it down. It's pastiche poorly detailed. If you're going to essentially copy do it properly.

I'm banging on about it but is so avoidable.

david said...

Fair enough. I'm going on the pictures above and I can't tell the trim's detail from those.

I still think it's not a bad effort - could be better, sure - and there are plenty of reasons to use UPVC over wood, but the cheap stuff does tends to look shoddy.

kolp said...

A lot of the flats of this development seem to be on the market already for rent at 1200 pcm for 1 bedroom. (coughripcoughoff)

Anonymous said...

The thing that concerns me as a Malpas resident is the turning traffic which is going to block up the road in either direction. The gate will only slow down access and add to congestion.

The houses fit in very well with those around them.
They will make the lady who incessantly cleans her front garden every morning even more obsessive.

Where's Malpas Simon on this?

mb said...

I bumped into their neighbour (nice old chap. He approves...

Anonymous said...

i think they look nice too - would happily buy one - gate would make it safer for children to play out surely? Gates don't bother me at all, we have one in our front garden, most people do... It's hardly Malibu is it.

Anonymous said...

A garden gate is not the same as a 10ft locked gate. No need for it.

Robert said...

One problem with gated communities is that it is type of housing that goes against the grain of London's development history. The city has evolved as a collection of highly interconnected public streets and houses close to the road. It is an excellent model, that still has lots of benefits.

However, cul-de-sac gated communities are less damaging than those that divide and separate existing or potential roads that lead somewhere.

Malpas Simon said...

Sorry Anon 8th, been away for the weekend! Here's my two pennies worth:

I've been keenly watching the mews go up every morning on my way to the station and I'm really pleased with how they've turned out.

Of course we can hope and pray for new double glazed wooden windows and cast iron drain pipes, why not even build fake chimneys on the roof to be more in keeping? The reality is these things will never feature on new build houses, however, my faith in developers actually giving a sh*t about houses fitting in with their surroundings has been restored.

I'm a huge fan of the victorian terraces as they are not just great houses but a symbol of our countries heritage. (Also very happy about the return of many front gardens to railings and encaustic tiling - how sad does that make me on a scale of 1-10?)

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