Wandsworth Sash Windows comes to Crofton Park

When BCers run through their list of Fantasy Retail Occupiers, sash window providers come some way further down the list than pubs, gyms and delis. But Wandswotth Sash Windows' arrival at 355 Brockley Road is welcome nonetheless, filling a hole in Crofton Park and offering something people presumably want to buy.

The company, with an established showroom in Battersea, has occupied the unit left vacant by estate agents KFH when they moved to the opposite side of the street recently.

53 comments:

AlanSE4 said...

Boring, but better than an empty unit.

anon said...

Actually very pleased, gentrification is consolidating if they think there is demand for proper wood instead of the typical SE plastic...

Sew247 said...

At least it's not another barbers / hairdressers 😂

Monkeyboy said...

having looked at the cost of wooden sash windows id not critisise anyone fro going to a cheaper material.

terrencetrentderby said...

You're not from Brockley Society are you? They've put many a family in the poor house with their expensive whims (I'm guessing).

Headhunter said...

I don't think it's a Broc Soc "whim", if your local council sets up a conservation area it's pretty standard that uPVC widows are out.... A woman I used to work for out in West London somewhere lived in a conservation area and she replaced her windows with plastic. Within days the local council had hit her with a letter telling her she had 6 months to remove the plastic or else so she had to pay twice - once for plastic and again for wood replacements.... Lewisham BC never seems to actually enforce the no plastic rule (I wish they would)....

terrencetrentderby said...

Who grassed her up? Seems like there is a culture of fear and intimidation in conservation areas, hiding ostensibly in the guise of supposedly benevolent local societies. These kind of "warning letters" are metaphorical bricks through windows.

Headhunter said...

No idea, perhaps no one did, perhaps that council is far more vigilant re conservation areas. I have to say, Lewisham BC sets up conservation areas all over the place, since I've lived in Brockley 2 others have been set up that I'm aware of however it means very little as nothing is actually enforced as far as I can tell...

Headhunter said...

If you move to a conservation area, you're made aware of it when you're buying the property by solicitors and in Brockley, estate agents announce from the highest rooftops when flats in the cons area come up so no one can claim not to be aware there are rules so I feel very little pity for people who suddenly fall foul of rules or whinge that they can't afford to replace their windows... Don't like it? Move somewhere else...

Monkeyboy said...

there are actually some uPVC windows that are allowed in SOME conservations areas. agree wooden is nicer but its not a few %, also agree that you should do your research before you move in. if the rules are introduced AFTER you move in then it can be unresonable

Headhunter said...

Yes, although before the council sets up a conservation area I think they usually take a vote from locals and consult so people should be aware of how it might affect them.


The Brock Cons Area has been around since the 70s I think so pre dates uPVC windows by about a decade. No one round here should be surprised that they can't fit plastic windows in their homes

terrencetrentderby said...

Seems fair enough, my house was built in the 80s so danger of anyone wanting to conserve that. Would be nice if someone made my African neighbour tidy his garden though.

BrockleyJo said...

So, out of interest, what does Brockley need then? What would we like empty units filled up with? Just wondering...

Peter Tooke said...

Ahem, is it relevant that he's African?

terrencetrentderby said...

Of course, why do you ask?

Emma said...

Well I'm quite happy about this as my windows need to be repaired or replaced soon and I'm definitely planning to keep them as wooden sash windows as I think they suit the building better. I'm not in a conservation area so could choose uPVC with no issues but I think they often ruin the look of the building.

Window worrier said...

If you buy a house in the conservation area and it already has plastic windows put in by the previous owner what are the rules on that? Could you be asked to take them out even though you didn't install them?

Pizza snob said...

I'd wait till you get a quote before getting obsessed with wooden sash. You can get high standard uPVC sash (which in my opinion look 90% the part) for roughly 1/3rd the cost.



I'm speaking from personal experience, as I thought the same until I had someone come to quote.

'arry said...

why don't you have a Rorke's Drift reenactment and settle the matter?

terrencetrentderby said...

I might!

Guest said...

I am not anti uPVC, but generally they are hideous to look at (or at least the majority of manufacturers make them this way).


My wooden sash windows need some tlc, so once the weather is a bit better I will be repainting them. I do hope this new shop offers secondary glazing.

Guest said...

A book shop. But, realistically, that was never going to happen.


I was hoping for a butcher.

Monkeyboy said...

there are some that are the same dimensions as wooden, thats the biggest issue with uPVC - the frame thickness. mind you they are not inexpensive but are compared to timber

kate said...

I think it's permitted development now whether you are in a conservation area or not. In my road there are all manner of different sorts of windows and it's plumb in the middle of the conservation area

kate said...

I got a quote of £25k to replace the six wood windows in my house...

Crofty said...

Proud Sow butcher's is only a four or five minute walk away from the new window shop. And there is actually a bookshop in Crofton Park now - the library has shelves and shelves and shelves of second-hand books for sale. They should make more of it in terms of signage ... it's a treasure trove.

Danja said...

Gulp. Yes, there are all sorts of chancers in the uPVC business too.
More like £800-£1000 an opening if you find a reasonable joiner.

Danja said...

And the one on Malpas Road used to be way cheaper than that (must be 10 years since I got a quote from them though), but the quality and profiles were quite cheap and cheerful with it.

kate said...

the 25k was for wood - 7k for pvc - a snip!

Headhunter said...

I agree, I just don't understand why uPVC frames have to be so damn thick! they literally dominate the front of houses sometimes. I've seen small (toilet?) windows in which the frames are so thick it's almost as if there's more plastic than glass!

anon said...

False economy, wood sash can last 100yrs+ (mine are still original), plastic will never last more than 10 years before changing colour and deform.

Put your hands in the pocket chippy, your neighbours will thank you.

Mark Racz said...

I'd like the book store too. Maybe combined with a shelf or six of DVD/Blu-ray rentals. Of course, we could do with a proper fruit&veg store as well.

Monkeyboy said...

ok, but if you have draghty, leaky windows you may not have a choice and youre unlikley to be around in 100+ years to reap the benefits for your £££££. also wood requires maintenance. fully agree, wood is best, if and when i need to do it i think i can afford it but i wouldnt stuff an anonomous note through my neighbours door for spending his money on other choices. Also, all plastics are not equal. i's sure you can get better quality uPVC that will last. ive also seen plenty of shonky wooden windows where the paint has peeled and frames shrunk. its all very complex....

nickleswaze said...

There's already a great butcher in crofton park. Was Peter James and now called Proud Sow I think. I would like a book shop, or a record store, or how about a video rental? Im still mourning Homeview.

nickleswaze said...

Oh. Reply in wrong place. First post on here and I sound retarded.

anon said...

good single wood windows are in the region of £1k, Tha applies to bay windows, if made of 3 windows £3k.

Window worrier said...

And your second post is offensive.

brockley man said...

No. But if you want to replace the plastic frames you would have to re - instate them with wooden ones.

ed said...

Did they specify a gilt finish? Should be more like 1k apiece, double glazed sliding sashes. Try Brockley Glass and Joinery. It will be more than upvc but easily worth it

ed said...

We had a flat on Tressillian and upvc sash windows were put into lewisham council owned houses opposite, by their maintenance agents. To be fair they were quite slim profiles. But I don't think there's much enforcement goes on around these parts (don't quote me)!

NAT said...

An overhaul using draughtproof beading can work wonders in itself at a a fraction of the cost of wooden double glazed, which, itself, should not be 4k per window. Thats just cilly.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

I live in the conservation area and at least two flats near me have installed PVC windows within the last 5 years. No sign of any enforcement from Lewisham Council.

JosephJohnODonnell said...

I got wooden windows a lot nicer and a lot cheaper than my everest quote. Plastic look awful.

JosephJohnODonnell said...

Perhaps you should have told them?

JosephJohnODonnell said...

It's not permitted development.

JosephJohnODonnell said...

I did my house for 7k in double glazed wood and looks much better than any ugly upvc option

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

I emailed them more than once on both occassions but no response.

Window worrier said...

Who made/fitted them? Would you recommend them?

JosephJohnODonnell said...

It was sashpro. Worst guy I've ever come across walked off job and never finshed properly. I think the other company I was considering was meridan. they seemed good.

terrencetrentderby said...

I'm sure the council have others things to worry about instead of your grassing emails.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Shame a few more people didn't grass Jimmy Saville up but i guess you would be aganst that as well.

captsimon said...

These windows are made so badly - made in Eastern Europe you are not supporting local jobs. Our windows were made wrong twice, the windows are noise and gaps let in cold air. the owners don't care when they have your money. See nappy valley website for more info

Wandsworth Sash Windows said...

Thank you for your comments!

Wandsworth Sash Windows is a family run business that is incredibly pleased to be expanding into the South East.

With regards to "What does Brockley need", the consensus from passers-by seems to be a deli funnily enough!

Anyway, we will be open very soon so please pop in for a chat.

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