Lewisham crime drops 6% in 2009

According to the latest figures released by the Metropolitan Police, Lewisham enjoyed a 6.1% decline in recorded crime for the year to December 2009.

However, this figure hides a dramatic increase in the number of burglaries across the borough (10.7%) and in Brockley (44.4%) and Ladywell (35%) wards. Only Catford South and Lee saw higher rises. All other specific categories of crime were down overall, including theft, criminal damage and sexual offences.

Violence against the person fell significantly in Brockley, Ladywell and Telegraph Hill wards, but rose in Crofton Park.

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not really sure if 'enjoy' is the right verb to use when discussing Lewisham's declining crime figures, but good news nonetheless.

Ian on the Hill said...

I suspect the violent crimes reports are down because so few are actually reported.

HangEmHigh said...

Thats true Ian, there's too much red tape when you report something.

Danja said...

Quite right, and that red tape is something which has got so much worse since last year's statistics.

Brockley Nick said...

Danja's point is exactly right. It might be the case that crime is under reported because of red tape (which is why many people prefer the national crime survey statistics) but there's no reason to suppose this problem has got worse in 2009. Therefore the drop in crime is real.

Sticky Fingers said...

Perversely the 44% rise in burglaries suggests the area is on the up!

Lou Baker said...

This site is really interesting. It lets you see the number of crimes per borough, per ward and per sub ward. It doesn't say what the crimes are but it gives you an idea.

http://maps.met.police.uk/

Unsurprisingly the A2 and A20 main roads seem to be a crime magnet as is the area around Brockley station. But the rest of the area seems pretty quiet.

Monkeyboy gagging for the pubub said...

Well as the train service from brockley is apparently going to the dogs we can expect crime ther to drop. Every cloud....

alfredturningstone said...

ian - people not reporting crimes is a problem when reporting things and that's why there is also the british crime survey as well as home office/police figures.

i guess this website shows reported incidents to the met, although after a quick look it wasn't all that clear.

The Oracle said...

"Lewisham enjoyed a 6.1% decline in recorded crime".... because they stopped recording some of it as crime?

Anonymous said...

No decline here - had my wallet stolen today, not pleased!

Anonymous said...

I demand a recount! I know a number of people in and around my street who've been burgled in 2009. Seems to have risen a lot.

Plus like Ian says, who really bothers to report crime unless really serious.

The police are too busy racing around in their cars thinking their Lewis Hamilton.

If they got out of their cars to smell the dope on lewisham way, they might make a significant dent in crime stats.

read before writing said...

anon yes the article says the burglary rate went up a lot. whats your point?

Anonymous said...

no increase here - walked home from the station and didn't get killed. your point?

Anonymous said...

I haven't noticed a decrease in the number of times police cars race round with sirens wailing, wouldn't that be a measure of the decrease in crime?

Anonymous said...

no, it would be vauge feeling of how often you've noticed police sirens now compared to vauge feeling you had about police siren activity at some arbitary point in the past.

Anonymous said...

As always perception of crime and actual crime are at best loosly connected. All it takes is a screaming headline about hoodies/knife crime/bands of killer badgers and suddenly we have a new crime de jour to stress about.

Anonymous said...

"no, it would be vauge feeling of how often you've noticed police sirens now compared to vauge feeling you had about police siren activity at some arbitary point in the past."

Nonsense, that's like saying I had vague feeling there were more sparrows around some years ago.


Some people need to wax their ears, notice the increase in sirens around 3pm compared with the rest of the day.

A coincidence schools are emptying at about that time?

Anonymous said...

"I haven't noticed a decrease in the number of times police cars race round with sirens wailing"

So what was the previous frequency and what is it now? it's just such an inprecise statement it hardly merits the effort of typing. I've not noticed any difference in sirens, but my observation is no more valid than yours. What would it prove anyway if it was true? perhaps there is more traffice so they need to use sirens more often? Perhaps the sirens they use now are louder? perhapaps your imagining things? I really don't kow...nor dare I say, do you

Tamsin said...

There were more sparrows around some years ago. One theory being lead-free petrol means a different chemical in the exhaust, which means fewer crane fly/daddy-long-legs, which means fewer crane fly larvae at the time when sparrow chicks need feeding, which means fewer sparrows.
A real loss - they are just so pretty in a totally not flashy way.

Monkeyboy said...

They've been pushed out by gentrification. It's all doves now, it's sad.

Headhunter said...

True about Sparrows and Daddy Long Legs. As a kid I remember flocks of Sparrows in my parents' garden and literally hundreds or thousands of Daddy Long Legs buzzing around the school windows at a specific time every year I think it was Autumn time). Nowadays you see very, very few of either.

In fact there are fewer birds in general, I'm sure. A few months ago I was lying in bed one morning before getting up, thinking how little morning birdsong there is now compared with a couple of decades ago.

Tamsin said...

I don't miss the daddy-long-legs - I used to hate them because they seemed so fragile. I think there are the same number of birds just different ones.

Rather than lying in bed listening to the bird song (or lack of it) come on a Dawn Chorus Walk one day - they are arranged in Sydenham Woods and One Tree Hill in April and May - just a matter of searching out the rather secretive publicity.

Anonymous said...

There's just more Crows and Magpie's It seems.

Anonymous said...

The wailing of police sirens up and down the Brockley Road is the Lewisham Police Fast response unit. I have heard that the regular drill is a time trial from base to the fish and chip shop on Harefield Rd and back.

There would be much tut-tutting from the Sarge if his chips were cold.

I predict that one day there is going to be a very nasty accident on Brockley Rd involving a police vehicle.

I suppose we are obliged accept a few fatalities are the price to pay for the sterling response they provide to real emergencies.

Anonymous said...

I am less than confident about the Crime Statistics coming out of Lewisham.

When I had recourse to report the activities of a local 'lady in distress, knock on the doors, borrow money under false pretences' con-woman, Pamela Fay. Lewisham Police were less than helpful.

'Sorry its not a crime'. I've had a word with my supervisor and its definitely not a crime - she might give back the money! It made me wonder how many other crimes had been stone walled and fobbed off like this to keep their crime figures down.

This woman conned hundreds of people in the Brockley area in order to feed her addictive habit, corroding the trust in the community. Would that have been reflected in the official crime figures?

While I got a good response from the local Police community team, the centralised call handlers at Lewisham seemed overly keen to find any reason not to record a crime. It was quite disgraceful.

We put a great deal of faith in our public services. Sometimes we are badly let down.

I think there sould be a crime survey based on interviewing local residents. Those figures compared to the official police figures would make interesting reading.

Brockley Nick said...

Again, unless they have recently become more reluctant to record crimes, then the behaviour you descrbe shouldn't affect the trend.

Reg said...

Thwarted robbery at car parked in Manor Avenue.
At 520am today two (white) schoolboys were spotted breaking into a parked car, the second break-in in a week.
Neighbour reports hearing the alarm and observed the boys as they returned once it had stopped. They were wearing hoods, and both had gloves.
Aged between 11-13. Probably locals, so watch out if you live and have a car parked in that area.

mewmewmew said...

Well as the train service from brockley is apparently going to the dogs we can expect crime ther to drop. Every cloud....



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JJ said...

If the information is accurate its good news!!!

jay said...

The number of incidents reported was greatly reduced,not just a handful! What has changed?

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