New cricket pitch for Hilly Fields

Cllr Sue Luxton has the story that Hilly Fields will get a new cricket pitch:

Funding totalling £600,000 has been secured from the Big Lottery, the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) and the London Marathon Charitable Trust to regenerate the pitches both at Hilly Fields and in Mayow Park (Sydenham).

Congratulations are due to Peter Rankin from local social enterprise Envirowork Lewisham, who has played a key role in driving this project forward, together with Teachsport and officers from Lewisham's parks department... The pitch will be on part of the flat bit by Francis Drake Bowling Club, alongside Hilly Fields Crescent. I believe this is where a cricket pitch was originally located in the park, many years back.

About a year ago, we spoke to Peter about this project and he explained that it would happily co-exist with the football that's regularly played in Hilly Fields. It's great to hear that it's finally going ahead - an important step forward in improving the range and quality of local sports facilities.

59 comments:

Tamsin said...

That's brilliant. What a village needs is a cricket pitch.

Bow Ler said...

£600K for two that is £300K for Hilly Fields - are you sure that you haven't dropped in an extra 0? Or alternatively will we be hosting the nest test match??

Anonymous said...

300K? Really? For a local pitch - wow what a waste of money

Anonymous said...

Stop whining

CricketLover said...

I can remember when there was a Cricket pitch there,and thought It was stopped through neighbors complaining about there cars and windows being hit.

Wouldn't think It would cost anywhere near 300k though.

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Anonymous said...

Just need some benches and a pub on the corner.

I don't think its a waste of money. Bringing communities together and having kids off the streets can only be a good thing.

Brockley Nick said...

How about, rather than assuming that the money (which was only secured after a lengthy application process that no-doubt involved many hoops to be jumped through) is excessive, waiting to find out exactly what work is planned and why?

The kind of knee-jerk response above is so irritating - and it must be doubly so for those whose hard work you are talking about. It's like the complaint that police shut off Brockley Road for too long the other day - made without any knowledge of the facts.

It's reasonable to ask the question about how the money will be spent. It's unreasonable to assume you know the answer already.

Blue sky said...

People can be so negative. Someone had fought long and hard to make this a reality, to give local kids another opportunity etc etc. You're probably the same whingers who reminisce about the good old days and complain in a Daily Mail fashion about the yoof of today. "In my day we were happy to knock a cricket ball about in the local park" etc. Well, hello? What are all the whingers actively doing to improve the area?

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Sue said...

I don't know all the details of the funding, but my understanding is that figure covers the running and maintenence costs for the first 3-4 years, and the management plan is geared towards it becoming 'financially sustainable' by its 4th year. I know zilch about cricket pitch manintenence, but I suspectit involves substantially more than just cutting the grass a bit shorter than elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I'd prefer them to stick a football pitch on there to be honest. At least people/dogs, etc can run on a football pitch when there's no game on.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 2054: Understand where you're coming from. But you only need to protect the square, not the whole pitch. And a footie pitch can be ruined by not protecting the goalmouths in wet, muddy weather. So much of a muchness.

My concern is whether there'll be enough interest in establishing a local club with a few teams, including juniors, to make it good value. Hope so.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Nick i think people have a right to a gut reaction to 300K of public (lottery) money for a cricket pitch. Yes, it is a gut reaction, but the article doesn't give any other details. I would be more upset if people didn't raise an eyebrow..

XBoxHater said...

Great news,And Ive read even Mike Gatting has visited the site on Hilly Fields.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure I could make any square of grass 'financially sustainable' for three hundred thousand pounds. Yet more misdirection of public money by the Mung Party. :(

Anonymous said...

I feel for the people who live opposite and park their cars outside their houses. Maybe the 300k is for the insurance premium.

XBoxHater said...

That will depend on which way the pitches face.

Pete said...

£300k is absolutely sod all in the grand scheme of things. The Royal Opera House received £78.5m from the same fund over ten years ago.

Perhaps if any of you whinging losers had bothered to look into why they might need to spend that amount of money then perhaps you might have a leg to stand on.

drakefell debaser said...

Yet more misdirection of public money by the Mung Party. :(

Out of interest, what would the other party (the one you represent) like to see done with the money?

Anonymous said...

Well they could add that to the millions that may be spent on cricket programmes because kids didn't play enough when young. Or on schemes to tackle obeseity? Why not write a letter to The Mail about kids spending too much time on computer games? Visit Australia if you to see just how poor our public sports facilities are.

SportForAll said...

Isn't It good to see that they are trying to make a sports facility, Instead of the norm of closing them.
Correct Pete, Millions on the Opera house when most working class dont get the chance or give two hoots about Opera

Brockley Nick said...

I used to work in football and you don't get many grassroots football pitches for 300k either - not when you factor in the maintainance and any other capital costs.

For those people worried about value for public money - what's the average cost of installing and maintaining a cricket pitch?

I assume you know the answer - well enough to criticise three well-established funding bodies.

Anonymous said...

In the grounds of Chiswick House there is a cricket pitch and a rather upmarket mobile cafe has been openned by the pitch.

Possibly part of the funding is for coaching schemes over 3-4 years?

Anonymous said...

I thought the maintainence would be down to the people who look after the parks,which Is paid for by us.

Anonymous said...

No, read what sue writes. And is the concept of a public facility being paid for by the local public body so wrong?

quick brown fox said...

To do the thing properly you'd need some changing rooms, sight screens, scoreboard (I daren't hope for anything resembling a proper pavilion) and somewhere to store the equipment securely. £300k sounds fairly modest to me once you factor in maintenance etc.

I think this is great news. Bah humbug to those who don't.

Ed said...

I have only just skimmed this as pretty busy but a few thoughts:

1. Wonderful to have cricket locally; I hope this is a successful project and brings joy to those who play/watch the finest game in the world locally.
2. Initial knee jerk reaction to a large sum but maintenance might account for this.
3. Where does he pitch go? Hilly Fields is, well, hilly!

Apologies if all these points have been addressed but I haven't had the time to read all responses and I am so excited about a cricket based post.

Anonymous said...

It was great watching the cricket on Hilly Fields In the summer,Lets hope It comes back again.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Sounds as if it is time for a revival of the Talbot cricket team.

Yes there used to be one, up to 5 or 6 years ago but we had to play on Blackheath or in Kidbrook.

A local pitch could revive interest

Brockley Nick said...

I've got some more info on this and will write something in more detail later in the week.

XBoxHater said...

Maybe they could get Mike Gatting to guest.

Robert said...

Who will be playing on the pitch? Is there a Brockley Cricket Club?

If not, does somebody want to form one? I am a reasonable 11th man, though haven't swung a bat or bowled in anger since I left school.

Incidentally, my grandmother met my grandfather at a cricket match played at Hilly Fields in the 1930's.

Anonymous said...

Nice story, Robert. Bring on the Brockley Cricket Club and Dating Agency.

tyrwhitt ali said...

I quite like watching cricket on a sunny day, so if you form a team, I'll quite happily come along and support/sunbathe!

Bow Ler said...

Sorry - if the original post had indicated that this was money to support coaching and team development - then that would have seemed much more reasonable. . . but the original article said explicitly 'regenerate the pitches' . . for which £30K would seem to (my ignorant) viewpoint about adequate.

I really thought that there was a typo and was trying to help :-))

XBoxHater said...

I dont know If you still can,but on a dry summers day you used to be able to see where the pitches were,But with allowing a Fairground up there you probably cant now.
But I will be looking out.

Jo said...

Excellent, I'm already looking forward to bringing a picnic along to watch the matches. My partner's interested in joining a team so we're eagerly waiting for more info.

Robert said...

After doing some (minimal) research, I can't seem to find any reference to a cricket team in the area. There used to be a club at Honor Oak, but it looks like it has merged with the Alleyns club in 2004.

We'll just have to form one ourselves. I am now approaching 40 and my knees are only likely too hold out so long playing football on a regular basis. I can feel my cricket years may be imminent, swiftly followed by my golf years then dotage.

XBoxHater said...

Any more Info Nick,this sounds great If It happens.

Will people be able to oppose It ?

Brockley Nick said...

End of this week - some more details.

drakefell debaser said...

In the meantime you can play cricket on Playstation or Xbox.

*ducks*

TM said...

How about all the local pubs each getting a team together?

We could then compete in a mini league

XBoxHater said...

Grrrrrrrrr Drakefell

Brockley Nick said...

@XboxHater - I hope it doesn't put you off the blog, but XBox is one of my company's biggest clients.

XBoxHater said...

We have all got our cross to bare Nick.
I hate Playstation as much, just takes kids away from real sport of getting muddy and healthy,not muddy playing Cricket I hope.

Tamsin said...

Everything in moderation - I was initially very resistant to any game stations but ultimately it was rather sweet how my children played dual, against each other, or, when playing solo, would help each other through tricky bits.

I don't think they do much less real sport because of it - just read less and watch less rubbish TV.

drakefell debaser said...

Quite right Tamsin, there is no such thing as a substitute for sport but, compared to television, a video game has far more to offer the individual.

I have owned a playstation for almost 10 years and find it great for those cold rainy days or nights in with some mates, couple of beers and some healthy competition be it playing a test match in the Ashes, a Champions League final or shooting terrorists in one of those awful violent games you read about in the mail.

XBoxHater said...

They are part of the reason there are so many obese kids In the UK.

Hobgoblin said...

Guys - my mate has just e-mailed me a link to this wonderful piece of news. My name is Niro and I run a newly formed cricket team called the Hobgoblin Nomads. We are based in New Cross and our pub is the Hobgoblin. As far as I know, we are the only team in the nearby area, and we currently play all games away, mostly in SW London. We are desperately looking for a home ground, and maybe this might just be the one. We would be thrilled to open up the team to the locality, to therefore form an official club! Our e-mail is hobgoblinnomads@gmail.com and we net regularly - once or twice a week. Cricket is a great game, and can be a unifying force within the community. Here's to hoping that this new community venture is a roaring success!

Alaric Adair said...

This folly on Hilly Fields was not used last year (2011), but did require a lot of attention from the outsourced Park people Glendales. I shudder to think how much that maintenance cost Lewisham Council, it is highly unlikely that it was in the original outsource contract. Meanwhile the area is still fenced off and taking a major chunk out of the area used by the Sat/Sun footballers.
I often wonder which genius decided the placement of the cricket pitch where half the fielding area is on a 40 degree slope?

Mondee said...

Misery guts.

Alaric Adair said...

Well Mondee when I was taught debating at school it was drummed into us, "Don't use personal insults when you lack a genuine argument to support your views." So I'll not come back at you personally.

What really gets my goat is the waste of at least £300K, plus more ongoing maintenance fee for a monumental folly which no one is allowed to use.

Beefy Botham said...

"What really gets my goat is the waste of at least £300K, plus more ongoing maintenance fee for a monumental folly which no one is allowed to use"

ECB and National Lottery money, anyone can use it if they join the club. In the same way that anyone can use the tennis courts.

I wasn't taught debating at school but arguments based on half truths do you no favours (disingenuous I think? dust off your old debating manual and let me know)

NAT said...

@AA. Park users have been told that it takes 18 months for a new square to be playable.

Are you saying that this isn't so?

I'm whatever the opposite of knowledgeable might be called, and have to look up fielding positions, so forgive if they're wrong, but,
if one fielding position (sweeper cover?) was on the 40 degree slope as you say, wouldn't the other (deep square leg?) be out on the road?

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with a sloping outfield - grounds like that (and ones with trees inside the boundary) are just more interesting to play on!

NAT said...

But answer came there none...

Anonymous said...

Well the answer is that fielding positions aren't set in stone - you move people around depending on the situation. In this case the fielding captain would probably decide that positioning some of his players in a road isn't the best way to approach the match.

As for the 18 months thing - yes, that's probably the case for a County ground. Local pub teams will play on just about anything though.

NAT said...

My point 10:49 was that the square being pretty much equidistant from the slope and the road, that if some fielding was being done on the slope then....

Mr. A.A. seems enraged that play can't commence, and I'm asking whether that isn't for quite a good reason.

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