Fresh drive for Coulgate Street part-pedestrianisation

The Brockley Cross Action Group have asked us to promote the Coulgate Street petition again.

The petition is in support of Coulgate Street being part-pedestrianised, to make the access to the station safer and more attractive.

The plans would need to allow for residents to continue to park on the street but they would not require a CPZ to be introduced - the measure would be highly-localised and could be relaxed in the evenings. There would also be allowance made for passenger drop-offs and for the fact that Speedicars taxis operate from the street.

The Brockley Assembly is pushing for this issue to be looked at in more detail and Lewisham Council has already raised the idea with TfL, although the reality is that funding will take some time to secure, even in the most optimistic scenario.

But if you'd like to see Coulgate Street be improved, please sign here now.

The initial ambition for the petition was to raise 200 signatures, a target we breezed through. Now at 259 signatures, BXAG want to get 1,000 signatures, which is the sort of size we need, to really get noticed by the Council.

25 comments:

Tim said...

Sounds like a good cause. I am happy to sign. It would be great if we could get the Brockley Farmers Market moved there, like the Christmas market. I think everyone would be a winner as there would be more footfall for Browns and the Broca, and more passing trade for the market than there is on Hilly Fields Park.

Anonymous said...

Yes! Would be great to see Coulgate Street part or fully pedestrianised, bring it on!

James said...

Coulgate Street might start looking a bit nicer if people didn't walk through the flower-beds on the way out of the station.

Brockley Nick said...

@James - to be fair, it's not obvious that the flower beds are anything other than muddy, cigarette-butt-strewn slopes at this point.

Node said...

Would be good to get that storm drain at the bottom of the steps unblocked too, there's always a large puddle of water their.

Can one lobby Thames Water about this sort of thing?

Anonymous said...

Tim
The Brockley Farmers Market is in Hilly Fields.
It would be better if the Telegraph Hill farmers market moved there.
James

Anonymous said...

Btw - That James is not this James.
I reckon that the station looked better before the relandscaping occured to be honest. It had a natural feel to it - like it was a station in the countryside. Now it feels much more urban. The ramp is far too long too (about 3 times as long as it needs to be) and carves through the area that could have been green space.
James

Tamsin said...

Er, James... I don't want to be accused of making assumptions on the part of others but I would guess that most people in Telegraph Hill quite like having the Telegraph Hill Farmers Market (which is incidentally the same people as the Hilly Fields and Manor Park ones) in Telegraph Hill Park.

Anonymous said...

Tamsin
1. I live near Telegraph Hill.
2. There is no economic benefit to having a farmers market in a park.
In a park it is middle class shopping.
However put in a street next to struggling shops it has a real econonomic benefit to the area.
James

Danja said...

Alright, so you've "proved" that the Hilly Fields Farmers Market has no economomnomic benefit where it is and should be moved to Coulgate St.

Anonymous said...

It has economic benefit to the farmers but not any neighbouring shops as these parks are away from other shops (and in a major economic recession that's kind of important). I was talking about Telegraph Hill farmers market NOT Hilly Fields.
James

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of a browse in the farmer's market, followed by lunch or a coffee locally. Yep, sold, move it to Coulgate St.

Tamsin said...

@ James - to an extent, so what?

And I've fairly regularly stood there for the whole of the four or five hours on the information stand (where, by the way, on Saturday we will be dishing out the Telegraph Hill Festival Programmes for any who can't wait to have them through the door) and it is quite a demographic mix that goes by. Not, I agree, the proportion of BME who actually live in the area, but some. Some who I would categorize as white working class. A lot of students (presumably Goldsmiths). A lot of parents with young children - one does the shopping and the other goes to the play club with the kids, or else they run around in the market area, having a great time. And one elderly lady who can't carry much now but, living right opposite, does her shopping in about three trips, chatting to acquaintance as she meets them.

It is of huge economic benefit to the brave little van/kiosk that serves drinks and snacks in the Park rain or shine 11 to dusk (except Mondays).

So don't take it away, but by all means get another Farmers Market to boost Coulgate Street (which I am also getting to know and love).

Tamsin said...

And why not Hilly Fields?

Danja said...

I don't understand why you are so adamant that you are not talking about the Hilly Fields one when the same 'logic' applies to that?

Tamsin said...

Think of the trade that the Pharmacy would get (if the Market is where I think it is...)

@ Anon - have lunch and a coffee at the kiosk and feed your bread-crumbs to the ducks or gold-fish. They also do a mean home-made lemonade in the summer.

Node said...

Jeez let's start arguing over the farmer's markets shall we, what next someone cut the nose off the cheese...

Middle class woes #37 and #62

Headhunter said...

Was this petition mentioned here before? I think I have already signed it.... DOn't want to sign it again by accident but looks like it's been around for at least a year

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with Asda?

Tamsin said...

Nothing. They do a truly scrumptious "cafe bistro" range of chocolate goods and biscuits I haven't seen anywhere else and interestsing special offers (including - on one occasion - horse-riding kit!). But the one near where I work had a long, long queue this afternoon and only one till open.

Mb said...

Ramp's too long? The incline is defined in building regs, if you were wheeling yourself up in a wheel chair you may find it just right, although obviously the fact that there are stairs at the top makes that a bit academic. The scheme, as i understand it, was only ever a step toward true step free access and not the complete solution. If you had a ground level station how would you get over the track? A station at high level is not a problem, finding the money to get platform access is.

Not bad for a drunken blog post? I need bed...

ppp said...

Much effort has been put into Coulgate street over the past few years but it's largely undermined by the free for all car sea that's there.

But then it's so lax round here, its not surprising. If you look around the area, you'll see parked up, on the pavement as though it's totally ok. Try and pull that stunt in other boroughs, you'll find your car in the local pound within minutes.

It's just weird.

Anonymous said...

Pete and Sue Waterhouse of Speedicars won't be too keen on closing Coulgate St.

Brockley Nick said...

The plan isn't to close of the street, so that's alright then. In fact, the street's regularly clogged with cars, so part-pedestrianisation could actually make their life a little easier, if done right.

Anonymous said...

Fair enough, best to get them on side though.

Pete's from Deptford so he's harder than you lot ;O)

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