Recycling bins to go from Brockley Road

Lewisham Council report that the Royal Mail have instructed them to remove all the recycling bins currently parked outside the sorting office on Brockley Road. They say:

Royal Mail have instructed the Council to remove all recycling bins inc. textiles from Brockley sorting office in 7 days. The recycling bins will be removed next Monday (17th) on a permanent basis. with no plans to re-site them. 

The Council believe the most likely reason behind the decision is the problem of fly tipping by the bins. When BC first started, the bins were a real eyesore in the middle of the high street, but significant effort went in to improving their impact and the setup had seemingly worked pretty well in recent years. 

37 comments:

fabhat said...

Maybe they can go on the new super wide pavement by brockley cross?

Anonymous said...

one word, no.

Oaksys said...

At a guess I'd say the Royal Mail doesn't want untidy recycling bins in front of their building if they were planning to close it down and move the service to a central sorting office. It's a lot of space if sold for redevelopment.

Ms L said...

It feels like such a step back to remove recycling facilities. :( It's very frustrating that people use the area for flytipping and/or otherwise can't keep it tidy.

Hopefully most people in the area already have recycling facilities at their house/flats so that it won't discourage anyone from recycling.

Anonymous said...

Why couldn't they go on Coulgate St?

Brockley Nick said...

@Oaksys - interesting and plausible theory.

Anonymous said...

The fabric bins too? What will people wee behind?

Anonymous said...

Unsurprising!

I have noticed a couple of rascals regularly fishing stuff out of the clothes recycling bins and leaving the stuff they did not want strewn around. I guess people also just dump larger items.

If the bins were emptied more frequently, this would not happen.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha. So true anon at 1444.
MS L. I completely agree. Such a shame.

Anonymous said...

Now that you can put pretty much all recycling in your green wheely bin there should be less of a need for these.

Recycling for usable clothes and shoes can also be taken to the scout hut on Breakspears road where they have their own bin.

Anonymous said...

There's also a clothes bin on St Asaph road now, on the corner of Finland road

AliAliAfro said...

If the sorting office site was redeveloped what would the BC readers predict/want to go there?

Resi above but what below...

Anonymous said...

Waitrose :-)

Tim said...

Yes, waitrose

Tj said...

I predict waitrose....ould not go there. Lidl, maybe.

Anonymous said...

A supermarket? In 2012? What's wrong with using the Internet to buy things?

Mb said...

Bit academic? if the post office don't want them there's little that can be done other than appeal to someone high enough in the food chain. Would be interesting to see who in royal mail had an issue? Was I a depot managers complaint? Can't see why anyone higher would even have been aware or their existence?

May be a spurious "security" complaint, seems to be the excuse de jour for lots of planning guidance for public infrastructure.

AliAliAfro said...

Here is a hyperthetical scenario:

Development surveyor visits site on behalf of Royal Mail to access development value and options. He (or she) notes both provision of Recycling bins and shabby appearance of exterior. He has a quick chat with a planning consultant and agent and subsequently advises client to get the bins removed becasue a) they want the building to look its best for any propsective purchaser and b) the planning consultant warns that the planners are likely to request that any existing public provision of recycling space is maintained for any future development and i) this would cut into the the floor space of any development and ii) the buyer they have in mind might not want this...

..or...

the manager got sick of tidying up wee soaked clothes...

Anonymous said...

Would be a bit annoying if the Post Office was to move - it's really handy being able to pick up parcels before work!

Anonymous said...

Used to a church there, just like the one at the bottom of Wickham Rd.

I expect it will become flats, they should really be able to pack them in on that site.

Anonymous said...

My opinion is that the sorting office is an eyesore and not very busy. we could do much more with that space.

Send a letter to RM to remove the sorting office...

Anonymous said...

Waitrose thanks, and a small post office.

Anonymous said...

KFC please.

Anonymous said...

Yes Brockley is crying out for another high rise block of shoebox flats, fingers crossed.

Malpas Simon said...

I think i liked the bins better than a big boring brick wall, at least they were colourful, but with the vast variety of things (including clothes) that we can now put in our own residential recycling bins I'm sure there really isn't a need for the bins anymore. (Apart from to wee behind, but if anyone feels a little too exposed now, I'm sure they could pop round the corner and wee through the carpark gate).

david said...

@anon0948, when I lived on Harefield Rd there was a fairly constant movement of posties in and out of the yard, espeically in the mornings. And the queue for people collecting parcels that don't fit through their Victorian letter box frequentely comes out the door and down the road. It's busy enough providing a useful service. The alternative sorting office is the far side of Forest Hill station. Let's keep this one thanks.

david said...

@anon0952, there's a post office about 200 metres away. Why do you want another one on this site?

david said...

Isn't the pavement outside a premises the responsibility of the owner? (This may be a load of rubbish, by the way). If so then they're probably just fed up with the mess rather than a secret plan to sell up. I've never heard of a developer thinking about buying a plot of land on which stands a building they'll need to demolish but saying 'oo, I don't know, those highly portable bins which could easily be removed in the future are putting me off.'

Even if it's not up to Royal Mail to pick up the scattered mess, they're probably just a bit sick of wading through wee and waste in the mornings.

Are the bins even needed now given how much the council will collect from your home? Who uses them? I have to confess that I didn't realise clothes could go in your green bin (as somone posted above) so that was the last time I used these, about a year ago. Doesn't seem a problem, really.

Anonymous said...

Clothes can go in your own bin but will be recycled as material so better to take to a charity shop or the scout bin on Breakspears if they are still usable.

TheOracle said...

The council apparently never asked permission to use the RM's land. It started to get messy. That's it.

auntykate said...

Royal Mail delivered a note through my door a few weeks ago to say that they "tested" leaving parcels with neighbours and the results were "really positive" with 92% of people being satisfied with this. So from late September they are going to do this when you are out rather than return it to the delivery office.

To me this change of policy does indicate they are planning to close the sorting office. And sell it for redevelopment.

Anonymous said...

I'm no friend of the Royal Mail. But if the bins have been removed because of all the crap that used to be left around there and perhaps the fact that some people (including the taxi drivers who hang around on Harefield) used it as a toilet, I can see why they wanted rid.

max said...

@ Auntykate, the policy to leave parcels with neighbours is a national thing.

auntykate said...

@ Max
Yes but maybe they are planning to sell off sorting offices nationally.
The Greenwich one got made into smart apartments called The Old Sorting Office. I think the replacement is a shed in Thamesmead. Not too convenient for West Greenwich residents.

max said...

Yes, very possible, on the other hand just by cutting the work of postmen that don't have to bring the stuff back they save some money.

Martin Clooney said...

Thats no good

Recycling Containers

plasterer sutton said...

plasterer croydon
It's a good idea, one that countless other people have no doubt had, but not been able to implement due to RENT CONCERNS. The concept does have some problems though related to properly rendering the different content for example now I get to lose my font and my color of my document, I guess maybe that is fine but who decided theirs was better, just for the common man?

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