The shameless middle class food thread

BC reader Swifty was inspired by a thread in the Guardian to say:

Nick we need to have a thread like this on Brockley Central and it's best to deal with the discomfort head on and entitle it. "The shameless middle class food thread".

Now, we have never seen any comment from a BC reader that's remotely comparable to overheard comments like "the children are getting upset. Quick, where are the grissini?" or "they only have a middling Chardonnay in the mini-bar."

However, we understand that some people do regard anyone who wants more from their food than to be able to transport it in a greasy card box with a picture of a chicken on it as an insufferable tosser and an endless source of amusement. So, for those people, who are unable to distinguish between food sense and middle-class sensibility, we are happy to oblige.

41 comments:

Graeme said...

Sod the G20 stuff. This one's really going to kick off.

max said...

My 3 year old daughter knows how to dress her salad with Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Oregano and Balsamic Vinegar (the real stuff).

Comment said...

We were about to have breakfast the other day and we had no bread, so my husband says he'll go get some from Costcutter, one of those fresh baked french sticks.

To my shame I then said, "no I need ciabatta".

I blame Oscars in Ladywell I'd had a fantastic sandwich there a few days earlier and I wanted to recreate it.

The Silver Spoon said...

The whole delicious irony about the middle class food obsession is its concern with peasant (working class) staples; bread, pasta, rice and oils. At some level, it's just another guilt-fuelled street-credibility trip - albeit with a different flavour. Who knows (and health issues aside), the future middle-classes might regard being seen to eat fried chicken and burgers as a way to connect themselves to a more authentic past (but only if they feel sufficiently removed from it in the first place)?

I think deep down, we all know that we're peasants and that the upper-class land-owning huntin', shootin', fishin' lifestyle is in reality just as much beyond our reach as it ever was.

Hugh excepted, obviously.

Hugh said...

Nota bene.

Headhunter said...

I can most definitely identify with the comment about Costa putting too much milk in machiato. Coffee in the UK mostly seems to be a bucket of hot, frothy, brown milk with barely the slightest taste of coffee to it. If you want anything vaguely resembling a proper cappuccino as served in any street corner cafe in Italy from your chain supplier (Starbies, Costa, etc, etc), I advise you ask for a machiato. If you want a proper machiato, you're stuffed. No one at chain coffee places knows how to make a machiato.

Headhunter said...

I've just finished about 6 shots of espresso this morning. The other half is away so I made an entire pot for myself. I feel like a live wire. My hands are shaking, I can barely type...

max said...

HH, I am a slave to large quantities of coffee too, and it happens to me too sometimes, the caffeine induced frenzy. What do you use to make your home coffee? A moka?

liz said...

Oh and I read it on the Blog first, before I even had a chance to open my Guardian!

But it has to be said, once you have eaten, and enjoyed, real food, you don't want to go back to that processed stuff - well, I don't.

And I've done the coffee sulk on more than one occasion!

Tamsin said...

I once delivered my hamster to a neighbour who was going to look after him while we were on holiday complete with organic almonds for treats. Not intended - he really liked almonds and a health food shop was the only one I had time to pop into before we left.

psyche9 said...

Yes, I relate to the machiato problem too.
One time you could get a decent cappuccino, but, over time, most places have basically turned it into a milk drink. So i started ordering machiato but now that is becoming a milky mess too. Why, why, why?

Anonymous said...

The commodity price of coffee must have some part to play.

max said...

It's the milk lobby, trying to spoil the guilt-ridden middle classes self-pleasing posturing of organic fair-trade coffee beans with bog standard froth. Not to mention the Freudian symbolism of a milky appearance covering a conquest of adulthood.

Ross said...

"The commodity price of coffee must have some part to play."

milk is much more expensive than coffee.

if the people that are complaining about substandard coffee (ie everyone) want to look at this map you'll probably find a much, much greater standard of coffee. however if you work in canary wharf or west london you're not going to have much luck - coffee black spots, if you will.

http://tinyurl.com/5h6gsx

Anonymous said...

Is milk cheaper than coffee? Britain still produces milk doesn't it? All those green fields and EU subsidies, don't we have milk lakes?

The Oracle said...

Riddle me this:

Royal but not Windsor,
Tea,
Green but not 'witch',
Coming soon,
Under the Moonbow,
Jake

Beecroft Alex said...

@ Oracle

Royal Teas?

Anonymous said...

Not another Mung Foods shop I hope.

angelofthewest said...

my, but word travels fast on this site. i thought i was the only one who'd heard of the Very Exciting royal teas connection.. Is it a certainty, oracle? I was holding back until I knew for sure.

Incidently, talking about local stuff, Royal Teas used to source their coffee @ the "Tea Factory" building (where coffee, as well as tea, was packaged).

quick brown fox said...

Wot is Royal Teas? Is this something that's taking over Moonbow Jakes' space? Have I put that apostrophe in the right place?

Tressilliana said...

Something to do with this place?

http://www.royalteascafe.co.uk/

There certainly seemed to be some movement of stuff going on in there at the end of last week.

Headhunter said...

Max - I use a stove top espresso maker at home. I do love a good coffee on weekend mornings. Unfortunately at work there's onlyu instant. A nice strong espresso or 4 also gets you moving fast on bike rides.

Headhunter said...

So is it really true? Is this Royal Tea place really opening at Moonbows?

fabhat said...

Didn't royal teas get caught up in a nasty court case with a new resident complaining that they cooked food on the premises last year (causing smells for the resident)? If so, it would make sense for them to move. We're very lucky if they're coming here...

Anonymous said...

Why all the excitement over a coffee shop?

fabhat said...

Not just excitement about a (very nice/well respected) coffee shop opening, but certainly for me - I'm glad that a large shop isn't going to fall into disrepair but will instead be used and may encourage more local businesses...

The Cat Man said...

Why arn't they opening up near Brockley Station? We still don't have a cafe westside.

Actually, we need a decent boozer too. And it better not sell any Mung Bean Ale

Anonymous said...

Both Broca and the Matchbox are perfectly located for westside customers - seperated as they are by a 30-second walk over one of two bridges!

Westsider said...

Now Catman's decided to jump on the "mung bean" bandwagon is that the end of that line of jokes?

drakefell debaser said...

As for a café westside, I though Broca supermarket had one?

As for decent boozer, try the Telegraph or Skeehans.

Anonymous said...

And its lazy to say that anyone living in the "westside" can't get to the original Broca. It could, for example, be a lot more accessible to them than to someone living near Hilly Fields or Crofton Park!

West/Eastside is a lazy geographic division.

The Cat Man said...

I wasn't being that serious - honest! Although I would imagine that there is still surplus demand for another cafe around the station.

The broca supermarket does have a coffee machine, but its broken and I have no idea when it will be working ...

tyrwhitt ali said...

Oh I love Royal Teas! I am definitely excited.

quick brown fox said...

Sounds quite up-market - is the G word marching with ill-deserved confidence towards this discussion?

I too would welcome a new cafe up this end of Brockley. I did go to Moonbow Jake's a few times in the daytime, but it was very dark, leading me to suspect it might also be a bit grubby.

Comment said...

Pumpkin ravioli & spinach for dinner tonight. No wine as it's still lent.

Graeme said...

with my never-ending search to find a satisfying career, I've been looking at brewing courses, and have wondered what kind of beer would define Brockley should I decide to set up my microbrewery. I reckon substituting sprouted m*ng b*ans for barley might be the USP I'm looking for.

Anonymous said...

mmm... you could suck it through a store of organic asparagus :)

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Comment said...

I have another one.

Compiling the weekly shopping list, I ask the husband whether I missed anything, he replies "yes, sugar, there's no for my tea"

I reply, "no it's alright we don't need sugar, there's agave syrup in the cupboard"

...slinks off shamefully.

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