Bridge House, Mantle Road - update

Following a few questions from Brockley Central readers about the status of the Bridge House development on Mantle Road, next to Brockley Station, we've spoken with the developers, L&Q about progress on the mixed-use residential and commercial block.


L&Q confirm that construction is ongoing, but much of the work is now taking place internally, which is why there is a less visible presence on site at the moment. Marketing for the development is just beginning, with a 'show flat' opening in October.

The whole project is now due for completion in January 2011.

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's late. Did they mention when they'll be taking the scaffolding down because that is apparently holding up Conway to complete the pavement widening and zebra crossing move on mantle road?

Anonymous said...

I expect Conway are extatic. They have another excuse to stop a job half way through and then drag it out for several months. Don't be surprised if they unearth a huge mound of asbestos when they get to that side of the pavement.

drakefell debaser said...

This may explain the tarmac Conway have dumped on the end of the nice new pavement they have completed.

That said, are they not bothering with the pavement opposite the Bridge House? Plenty to get on with there.

Aricana said...

I'm just glad that work is happening. If they improve the street lighting (as well as the pavements)then the journey home will be less scary too.

Does anyone know what's happening with the row of shops on mantle road? I seem to remember that the freehold or leases were for sale. Also has there been any interest in the commercila premises below Bridge House?

Brockley Nick said...

@Aricana - I asked about the commercial units - they said they were just about to start marketing them, no lettings yet.

@Anon - sorry, no I didn't ask about the scaffolding, but I guess some time around Oct.

Mouse said...

I would guess Conway's can't do the opposite side of the road either until the scaffolding is removed because it restricts the width of the road - with both footways out of action plus a pedestrian diversion.

Aricana said...

@Nick - thanks - do you know how many commercial units there are to let?

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Normally scaffolding is adpated in these sort of circumstances to allow work to go on around it.

In 30 years of experience with the construction industry I have never heard of a situation where, with the right mind set, such contractors can't work around one another.

BrockleBiker said...

From one of the links "Would naming it "Bankside" make a difference? Surely, traditionalists wouldn't like it?"

I don't the person who wrote that is aware that Blackfriars was originally named St Pauls and only changed in 1937.

The Cat Man said...

I spoke to a KFH agent last week, apparently there is some propspective tennants in the pipeline for bridge house. I also understood that a tescos metro was going to open albeit in a different location

The Cat Man said...

Personnally I want a waitrose

Anonymous said...

Catman, which location is the Tesco metro going to be?
I seem to remember you saying a big chain coffee shop was going to open along Mantle road at some point

Paul

Anonymous said...

So Tescos have changed their mind about locating to Bridge House. When Labour were canvassing for votes they confirmed it as did the local Stainer school - shame.

The Cat Man said...

No idea where the tescos will be, just relaying what a KFH agent said. Apparently the main brockley road area near the station is set for an overhaul over the next 12-18 mths as well.

...he could of just been trying to sell me a house of course :)

Westsider said...

Catman says a lot of things.

Brockley Nick said...

Anon - John Stainer school were telling parents that Tesco was opening at Bridge House. As a result, I chased both Tesco and L&Q for confirmation. Both sides completely denied it. As far as I can tell it was a completely bogus rumour.

I've said it before, but I think this site would be completely inappropriate for a retailer like Tesco, which relies on frequent lorry deliveries throughout the day. The road access is not suitable.

Anonymous said...

Re road access; I'm not sure it's as bad as people make out. If you approach from the Stainer end (therefore, missing the bridge) and park in foxwell street, there isn't a problem.
Foxwell Street has coped very well (it's a very wide road) with multiple lorries involved with the building of Bridge House.

Paul

Brockley Nick said...

Paul - that would rely on Tesco being happy with a sub-optimal solution, when there are plenty of other sites in the world to choose from and it would rely on residents and the council being happy with the idea of a permanent lorry bay on a quiet side street.

It seems very unlikely to me and the rumours appear to be completely untrue. The woman who sent me on that particular wild goose chase never said thanks for all the time I spent trying to help her get to the bottom of the story either... ;)

Anonymous said...

Are Tesco's taking over the world.

there he goes again said...

Catman, you consistently write 'could of' instead of 'could have'. Do you really not realise that this is grammatically wrong? Or do you do it deliberately to annoy pedants like me?? It's a lapse most six-year olds could avoid, coming from someone who presumably had to write semi-coherent English to get through his accountancy exams.

Lep Recorn said...

Could someone have a word with the developers about considerate construction??

Last Friday about 2pm I was leaving Brockley station on the Coulgate Road side. A construction worker on the scaffolding was shouting across the tracks, winding up and egging on a 'street person' who was drunk and drinking from a 2L bottle of white cider.

The street person was shouting about if he came down he would 'whup him' & the construction worker, as I said, was egging him on . . .

Not at all what I think considerate construction is about.

Ed said...

@Anon 14:42 Did you not see the Time Trumpet where Tesco invaded Denmark?

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's worth putting another call in Nick. If Labour were selling votes on that promise to story may have legs. In regards to it being an inappropriate site - I know of several Tesco metros (not in London) with unbelievably bad access - I can think of one situated up a pedestrianised cobbled street. God knows how they cope with their deliveries, presumably at night, but Mantle road would seem no more problematic.

Anonymous said...

I should also add, that it's a very narrow, cobbled street, set amongst a series of likewise streets, so no decent access- just so you get the idea.

Brockley Nick said...

As I say, I spoke to the landlords today. They say no commercial units have been let.

If someone wants to bring me some facts, that's great, but until then, I think I've exhausted all lines of enquiry.

Interesting that Labour were promoting the idea as a positive...

Andy Endwell said...

The the Tesco thing is a red herring - Jay who owns the Londis at the Drakefell/Endwell rd junction did quite a bit of digging in this regard and neither Tesco or Sainsbury have any plans for Bridge House.

Anonymous said...

i hope that whatever business opens there, it's the kind of business that brings footfall, unlike say the green tea architects.

lb said...

"i hope that whatever business opens there, it's the kind of business that brings footfall, unlike say the green tea architects"

Actually, I think Brockley needs more businesses like the architects - i.e. non-retail businesses, anything that generates a bit of robust economic activity. I think Brockley would be a very pleasant place to have a small office, if you're that kind of business.

Mind you, I'm half hoping a KFC opens just in order to see the reaction.

Anonymous said...

yeah i agree - but i think that side of the tracks in particular could benefit from some street life. Once all the pavements have been widened and the building is complete it might actually be quite tolerable.

The Cat Man said...

I think people will be surprised how nice Mantle road will look once its finished. It will be a couple more years before that happens though. Dont forget TFL have penciled in a direct access to platform 1 from Mantle road. Giving the population projections I cant see how they would not put one in!

drakefell debaser said...

I find it interesting that Labour felt inclined to use a possible Tesco at all in their campaign. The last time I checked, the prevalence of Tesco stores was not a Labour party pledge.

Besides, I would happily have the Londis, Broca Food Market and Nisa (Kwik-E-Mart) over a Tesco / Sainsbury any day – better variety and customer service.

I also agree that more businesses like the architects are needed – their staff support the shops like Browns etc during the weekdays which is important.

Apu said...

I am thinking of opening a branch....

Anonymous said...

When I said Labour mentioned it when they are canvassing for votes I didn't mean it was part of their manifesto - simply that they confirmed it as something that was due to happen. Clearly they were as ill-informed as the rest of us.

Ben said...

Thanks for the update Nick. Seems to be taking an age but it sounds like there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Also glad there's no Tesco in the offing. Can't see the point when we have several perfectly good franchised/independent local supermarkets already.

Anonymous said...

If there are 3 commercial units in an area where there historically been none then it is a true blank canvas. I wonder what everyone's top 3 business wish lists would look like - and I wonder how that will compare with the reality in a years time.
T

Thiruppathy Raja said...

Thank you for posting such a useful, impressive and a wicked article./Wow.. looking good!

Scaffold Labour

Anonymous said...

Bridge House now appears to be called Jude Court.....

http://www.lqgroup.org.uk/sales-and-rentals/our-properties/355/jude-court/?SearchGUID=2010927155522

MR P

drakefell debaser said...

Ooooh, they have Electrolux Hobs.

I love how they have included such a small photo that shows off the outside view from the living room. So small in fact that it is almost possible to misconstrue Brockley station for lush green lawn.

Incidentally, one of the commercial units under the grey block (does it have an official name??) is going to be a hair dressers. Opening soon and recruiting.

Anonymous said...

Lots of work on Mantle road at the moment. Soon it will look a whole lot different to what it was a few weeks ago.

Anonymous said...

The scaffolding has started to come down on this and dare I say it - the building doesn't look too bad. It looks much better in real life than it does on the photo. I wonder if this is because some people complained and they changed some of the building materials. The exterior now mirrors some of the wood cladding like the Tea Factory. Should be much better than the grey battleship opposite.

Anonymous said...

Rumours now circulating about Sainsbury's Local opening here. Anyone know if this can be substantiated?

Anonymous said...

"It's a lapse most six-year olds could avoid, coming from someone who presumably had to write semi-coherent English to get through his accountancy exams."


To Mr/Ms There he goes again:

do you have ANY idea of the real levels of "attainment" of children in our schools? Any idea at all? If you are worried by the use of the phonetic "of" instead of "have", you would gasp to see what passes for education in any inner city school. Setting aside the fact that much of the lesson is taken up with "crowd control" of children who have never been appropriately and consistently disciplined, you will frequently encounter schools where English is a second language and, worse,where teachers who are invariably addressed by their first names and shown no respect at all, weirdly encourage children to continue to express themselves in their mother tongue, thereby ensuring a life of unemployment and welfare dependency for all but the lucky.

No wonder these children turn to e.g. football and attempt to be discovered as a "musical celebrity". It is their only way out when for previous generations, the possibility of an escape to a trade or profession beckoned.

It's very depressing I'm afraid.

Monkeyboy said...

Blimey your glass IS half empty. Cheer up old boy.

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