Cathedral's Deptford plans presented

We're grateful to the Deptford Dame for letting us know about architect Lord Rogers' visit to Deptford to promote Cathedral's masterplan for the area behind the Deptford Project. They have released new images that give a much clearer idea of the proposals than previous sketches (click to enlarge).

What do you think?

(H/T to Luc in the BC Facebook group, who spotted how incredibly white the CGI crowd is).

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looks great - wish that was Brockley!

kolp said...

It's looks pleasant enough it jars with market though, the materials look cheap, compared to the work done around the Laban centre.

Anonymous said...

oh come on its dreadful. legoland. and why not have proper paving on the carriage ramp?

Anonymous said...

It'd be great if they could make the walkway a smaller version of the highline http://www.thehighline.org/

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, it would!

kolp said...

The highline is wonderful, but the corporate structure of this is much different, this a commercially driven beastie.

Anonymous said...

Can't wait to get my mini-moto going round there.

Treasurer to the committee for sustainable nettle juice (Lewisham) said...

Corporate structure, eh.. Where's that then?

kolp said...

This project is a public -private partnership, between Lewisham & Cathedral (based in SE1). It's a handy corporate/business structuring that enables the profits from a infrastruture project to be private but the risks public, see TFL & Metronet & Tubelines for a great example.

The High line project is more like a massive BXAG project.

Anonymous said...

£10 says the person looking for demographic issues in the crowd works in the public sector. They're first in the line for the cuts.

Brockley Nick said...

I know him and he doesn't.

Danja said...

I bet you £100 that anonymous pays that £10 you just won.

Danja said...

Oh and the building is a bit pink.

Brockley Nick said...

Everyone falls over themselves to praise Rogers' use of colour in Madrid's Airport, but they try the same trick in Deptford and it's called too pink!

http://bit.ly/uRL23R

Danja said...

That might be because it's a lot more sophisticated ... and a lot less pink.

Danja said...

I say that as a Rogers S,H fan - my favourite architects. I am lucky enought to be sitting in one of his buildings right now, and it is impeccably detailed, even if outwardly very restrained by that practice's standards.

The trademark internal colour accents here are his old school De Stijl alike primary blue/yellow/red. Rigorous modernist tradition, there.

Madrid was a brilliant riff on that.

A largely pink thing, well, it's not for me. Still, it is only a render on a masterplan.

Tamsin said...

Agreed - I had been biting my tongue (metaphorically - perhaps it's sitting on my hands) - but now others have said the same I'm with the anon who said it's a bit legoland and with Danja that it is rather too pink.

The link for the Madrid Airport just took you to the Rogers site - but I found this image online. Nice curves and a subtle rainbow effect.

Danja said...

The form will be impeccable (if RSH do the building.

Lego is bricks, it's more of a victorian thing. This is legoland, apparently:
http://travel.rentholidayapartmentlondon.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/legolandwindsor.jpg

Seems singularly inapt to me.

NAT said...

Besides which Spain has a bit of a tradition of pink.

Brockley Nick said...

@Danja - yes, the lego / toytown style is really PoMo. Like One Poultry, etc

Tamsin said...

@ Danja "apparently" - have you never been there? Worth one visit.

And you're right it is not "legoland" - which I had picked up from someone else and had doubts even as I was typing it - but building blocks. Presumably a cost and space constraint. And they're trying too hard to compensate with colour. To my mind, just doesn't work with northern skies.

Danja said...

Agreed Nick - and One Poultry is very pink too.

Which is a shame, as otherwise it is about as good as PoMo gets (Minster Court and maybe the odd Piers Gough excepted).

Anonymous said...

Such a vast improvement to what already exists! please hurry and make this happen!

NAT said...

Are the clothes lines on the other side?

Anonymous said...

Yuh. Ghastly. Horrid. Wholly out of keeping with the area. It would wreck Deptford. Not much more to be said really, except that I do wish architects like this would stop designing buildings. What did we do to deserve them?

NAT said...

Yes its execrable. I wonder if some of our architectural conneiseurs would venture to live in these coloured boxes or whether sll the fun is to be had on the outside. North Peckham estate all over.

Danja said...

I would have have been delighted to live in something as nice as that (if it wasn't so pink) in my flat-dwelling days.

The North Peckham jibe is just nonsense. It's no bigger than many uber-posh mansion blocks.

Brockley Nick said...

@Danja - I'd have been delighted to live there too. Also, I quite like pink (the bright variety, rather than One Poultry's dirty pink) and the colour reminds me of the neck tie mural in the middle of Deptford. I like the trend for colourful buildings, like Piano's building by Covent Garden. Still, I can appreciate why many wouldn't.

kolp said...

As long as the sound proofing is in order and it's quiet for residents once the shut their doors these flats should be ok to live in.

Regarding the colour, the architects have to go for vibrant hues, can you imagine how bleak the scheme would look without them, especially given the cheap materials? It's a technique i've seen from those instant home makeover shows.

otis said...

I'm astonished you can tell what materials are going to be used, and at what cost from the image.

Likening a development of this scale to DIY SOS is equally as astonishing but hey ho...

kolp said...

you're easily astonished...

Anonymous said...

give me strength, its the usual rubbishy nonsense plonked down in the middle of an area as apposite to this design as anyone could imagine. I suppose they'll call it a 'destination'. and what about the listed carriage ramp? and the fact that Deptford Stn is the oldest (1836) in London on the first line in London. RR would like to be remembered for his legacy of design I expect. why doesn't anyone respect the legacy of Deptford?

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