The Brockley Central Cycle Lane

Just as cyclists should have their own cycle lanes, wherever possible, it seems we need to create a special lane to keep them safely segregated from the rest of Brockley Central's traffic.

This is it. Cyclists - please use this post as you wish. And don't forget this link and this one too.

161 comments:

yaxu said...

Segregated cycle lanes are OK when they're well designed, unfortunately they very rarely are in the UK. So roads designed with vulnerable users in mind are often better than the facilities we're left with, lanes painted on the roads and pavements by madmen.

http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.co.uk/facility-of-the-month

Luckily, the latest highway code makes clear that cycle lanes are optional, and cyclists are free to choose not to use them if they consider them dangerous or slow.

Tom said...

Thank you for the cycle lane Brockley Central!

As a cyclist I tend to avoid cycle lanes because they tend to be poorly designed, as the above poster notes.

That said, on this blog I'll try to keep my cycle talk within the green lines.

Headhunter said...

Wow, I feel honoured! Or banished.... Not sure which. Now we really do have to set up some kind of cycle meet... So when's it gonna be?

Graeme said...

Hey Tom! and other Brockley bikies! How about a pootle out to Knockholt on Sunday week for the Hell of the Ashdown? (Catford CC's legbreaker).

Failing that, I'm always up for a pint.

b. said...

i must see you people everyday - the nut cases riding come rain or shine. we moved to good old brockley about 6 months ago now and decided the trains would be unbearable (used to live in london bridge and walked to work - ah the good old days).

so we got bikes and havent looked back. didnt think id make it through the winter but luckily its been pretty mild (except for this weeks ridiculous rain).

im moving offices in the next couple weeks - blackfriars to new oxford street - any one got some hot tips? best bridge to cross / roads to avoid on the north side?

Andy Pandy Pudding & Pie said...

I work at More London Place, near london bridge. Does anyone know how long it takes to ride there?

Monkeyboy said...

I walk past more place every day on the way to work.... small world.

Richard Elliot said...

B - check out this link for a route into the West End.

b. said...

andy - i gym just behind london bridge station and it takes me about 25 minutes to get there (using a quiet route ive worked out, could probably be faster going on main roads).


richard - i checked that out but is a bit far west for where i'm going, i was wondering if blackfriarsmay be a better crossing than waterloo. much of a muchness i guess.

Hugh said...

Hello all. Anyone else registered for Hell of Ashdown? I'm doing the shorter route.

Besides that, has a Brockers bike group been sorted out yet?

My ride to work is 5.5. miles if I go via Rotherhithe so I go via Nunhead and Brixton instead and make it 11 miles.

Can anyone out-nerd me?

Tom said...

Am doing the 'hell' of the ashdown ... the longer route, but am doing it at my pace rather than anything more lunatic!

I go to work to Blackfriars, crossing Southwark Bridge. 20 mins to London Bridge, straight up the Old Kent Road. I tried doing the wiggly routes but ended up finding them more dangerous - lots of RH turns across fast-traffic.

Whatever route taken, I reckon that as long as you do the same one each day it gets safer, cos you learn where's sketchy and where's safe.

Anonymous said...

I am thinking of the Hell of Ashdown - the 100k route - anyone able to give me and my bike to/from the start.

Otherwise, when I am not running, I bike to and from the Elephant - about 20 min using the backroutes through peckham and burgess park.

Maradoll said...

My experience using cycle lanes in London - is that most of the time you're sharing that space with the buses....which isn't pleasant.

From Brockley to Green Park it's about a 50 minute ride (I ride slow) and about 7.5 miles each way.

Stopped cycling about midway through December, but might start again now. Daylight appears to be getting longer - hate cycling in the pitch black.

Grae said...

Anonymous - The HotA is oversubscribed and there's no Entry on the Line, so if you haven't already applied, then bad luck. (Nothing to stop you riding 'unofficially' though, as long as you're careful....)

Headhunter said...

I ride to Chancery La (work) every day. Obeying all traffic light/being well behaved, it takes about 25 mins, so about 10-15 into London Br. I ride down Pepys Rd, along Old Kent, right into Ilderton, up Galleywall, left into Southwark Park Rd, right onto Tower Br Rd, left onto Tooley St. This is a semi quiet route which avoids blasting up the Old Kent with all the buses, traffic and random actions from pedestrians!

How about a ride on 10th Feb? Either out to Richmond or out through Kent somewhere?

Pete said...

I was waiting at the lights on Lewisham Way, just past Meze Mangal heading west into work this morning when a work man from Regal Roofing (not the one with a website I don't think) chucked a bottle of water at me.

So if you are having your roof redone don't use them, they don't like cyclists and are utter c**ts.

Headhunter said...

As I was cycling along Ilderton Rd on the way home from work a few months ago some kid threw a large-ish stone at me! It bounced off my helmet, but left a dent and would certainly have hurt more than a tad if it had hit me! The police weren't interested...

Lara said...

Pete! Language!

(i can say that, i am marrying him)

And it was my fault because i took umbridge at being cut up by Regal Roofers you see...not wanting to throw something at a lady-dee cyclist they chucked it at Pete. Such gents...

yaxu said...

If I were you, I'd report that to the police... Assault, and if you were cycling at the time then would have been life threatening behaviour.

yaxu said...

Urp, just read your comment headhunter... I guess if the police aren't doing their job properly you can report them to their senior.

Headhunter said...

When I tried to report the incident to the police I ended up going through to some central London call centre type thing which served for crime reporting across London.

Some tired, bored and impatient sounding woman answered the phone and went through the motions of taking my details. She wanted to know the postcode of the street that the incident happened in and seemed p*ssed off when I didn't know (I cycle along Ilderton Rd but have no idea of the exact postcode!) before telling me there was nothing she could do as it was too late (I reported it within 30 mins - although I cycled all the way home 1st and didn't just slam the brakes on and whip out the mobile).

She didn't sound like a policewoman, just someone employed to take details and go through the motions when people phone up about crime...

Pete said...

If you want to report something you really have to go to the station and fill in the forms. They always follow it up then. That's my experience anyway.

yaxu said...

On a different subject...

When I first moved to Brockley I remember a heart stopping moment, a double decker bus coming fast the other way suddenly swerved into the centre of the road, taking half of my lane, nearly knocking me off. Afterwards I realised the driver was positioning to straddle a road hump.

These humps seem common in Lewisham -- three going across, often with parking either side. Really nasty for cyclists, who head for the gap between humps *in their lane*, only to find oncoming traffic veering out to hit the same gap, forcing cyclists to go over the hump.

Anyone else had this experience?

Headhunter said...

I agree re the humps in the road. I find that motorists sometimes don't notice them until the last minute and then suddenly swerve erratically to avoid going over them... This has happened to me a few times as I head down Pepys Rd, I am often travelling at the same speed as the motor traffic, or faster which makes their lack of observation as they swerve to save their front spoiler particularly scary.

Tom I notice that you ride a fixie acc to your blog. I tried to reply on yuor site but you only allow people to make comments if they have logins and passwords. You should try riding with this bunch, they do a lot of city rides, I've been out with them and you get to see parts of London you've never been to...
http://www.fridaynightride.com/

Tom said...

Cheers for that headhunter! Looks cool.

I've done the Dunwich Dynamo a couple of times and really like the late-night riding thing. Cool, clear streets really rock.

I can't see anywhere on the Friday Night Road website where and when the next ride is ...?

The blog is my first so I'm still learning about the settings and stuff. I've relaxed the limits on the comments so that anonymous posting is allowed. Doesn't seem to harm this place!

Hugh said...

Are we having a Brockers posse ride?

We could park our bikes outside Moonbows, sip espressos in our lycras, and flick sugar at Nick and Jon while they tap away at their laptops.

Graeme said...

That would be the shortest cafe ride ever for me - all of 100 yards! So it must be done. (In full gaudy lycra of course. If only to frighten the regulars.)

Hugh said...

Who's up for weekend rides?

Hugh said...

To those who commute by bike, here's a route for when you want to pack in extra miles and are bored of going via the Old Kent Road or Deptford:

1. Brockley.
2. Past Tea Factory and up Telegraph Hill.
3. Down the other side to Evelina Road.
4.Turn left and go through Nunhead to Pechkam Rye.
5. Head across to Lordship Lane.
6. Turn right off Lordship Lane along East Dulwich Grove, and go past James Alleyn school all the way to Herne Hill.
7. Turn right along Brockwell Park and go up to Brixton.
8. Turn left out of Brixton (once under bridge) for Stockwell.
9. At Stockwell tube, turn right along South Lambeth Road for Vauxhall.
10. Take Albert Embankment east into the city. I cross the river at Southwark Bridge.

11 miles to where I work.

Headhunter said...

Tom - the FNR people seem to have got a bit lazy! Must admit I haven't been out with them for a couple of months. I got a message on Thu or Fri last week saying that no one had organised a route yet! However they do often turn up at the pub in Bloomsbury anyway and then head off as the mood takes them! You can sign up for their newsletter and get involved in the debates and discussions they have etc. They're quite a social bunch, the ride often includes a pit stop at a pub mid way through so you get to meet people, or they end up at the bagel place on brick lane at about 11pm or midnight...

Everyone (Hugh), so when are we going to do this ride (obviously after sitting outside TM2 in our lycra!)? I'm free on Sat 9th Feb or Sun 24th - anyone else?

Headhunter said...

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Voice echoes as if in deep cave....

Tom said...

After picking up a turbo trainer tomorrow (!), I'll be down at the Jam Circus shindig. Maybe we can sort dates/compare lycra then?

Work is killing me for time at the moment, so bike riding moments for me are squeezed in at very unsociable times (6am this morning!), but apols for not getting something together.

Headhunter said...

Very good Sir! See you at The Jam and we'll see what we can throw together. Anyone else coming? Hugh? Graeme? Pete?

Graeme said...

Yup. I Aim to be there.

b. said...

I'll be there.

so this ride - whats the story? anyone got a route planned?

Im actually thirsty for tomorrow night already... hmmmm.

Headhunter said...

No route planned yet but we haven't even got a date yet!

Pete said...

Well I'm doing a ride on Saturday with some friends but they are more recreational riders than serious cyclists. We're just going to do the Dulwich Saturday route as I know it well enough not to get lost. No idea what time I'm meeting them though.

Headhunter said...

OK, well let me know, if you don't mind an extra person coming along. I know the Dulwich P Saturday route fairly well now too.... What sort of speed do you do? Usual DP Sat morning ride speed?

Pete said...

I don't know what speed we will be doing, I've never been on a ride with them so it could be quite leisurely. One might even be on a mountain bike..!

Headhunter said...

A mountain bike?! Horror of horrors! Just joking, well let me know when and where and I may join (if you don't mind). Friend of mine came along on the DP Sat ride last week on her chunky MTB with squeaky suspension - nice to see that everyone waited for her!

Pete said...

I know, probably doesn't shave his legs either.

I will let you know what time we plan to meet up.

Brockley Jon said...

Afternoon chaps!

One wonders, what would DP think of someone turning up on a very old rigid MTB, but with skinny, if not properly ultraskinny, tyres? :)

And, here's another one to get the thread humming. What's better for your commute to work - proper racing bike, or stripped down stealth MTB (i.e. Cannondale Bad Boy with headshok) ???

Pete said...

They wouldn't mind, you wouldn't be the first and provided you aren't really really really slow you will get on fine.

I should think that a slicked up mountain bike is probably better than a road bike for the commute, although I think suspension is a waste of time unless you can lock it out. You also want to have large enough chain rings so that you can outrun the cars on the old kent road.

Headhunter said...

Hi Jon, In my limited experience the DP Sat riders all dress the part in lycra, clip pedals etc etc, but cycling speed is not that high. As I mentioned, my friend turned up on an old rusty MTB and people waited for her and were quite supportive. I think the ethos of the Sat morn is largely social and not race as fast as you can, you should pop along sometime! It's a fair way though - 5ish miles out to Crystal Palace, 30 miles round Kent and then 5 back to Brockers.

Re best bike for a commute, personally I would go for a stripped down racer any day, the skinnier tyres mean less friction with the road so higher speeds are possible, however I love gears and would never go for a fixie, but others have different opinions!

MTBs are more stable with their fatter tyres and generally have stronger brakes (V or disc) so could be better for someone who lacks confidence ploughing through London traffic. MTBs also generally seem to have longer wheel bases than road bikes

Graeme said...

Jon (and HH?)- another suggestion for the DP Sat ride is to intercept it at Elmers End (via Ladywell, Catford, A21 and right at the Homebase nr Downham, up to Beckenham and then over the Cinema Roundabout to the Elmers End triangle). The "Blue Train" usually comes through at around 9.30. Gives you a few more precious moments in bed.(Miss it though - and you'll be pedalling like billy-o to catch up! So probably not the best idea for a first-timer, come to think of it)
They return through this way too, and
it's a good place to bid farewell to other riders as you head back to Brockers, while they ascend the Giant of SE20 that is Anerley Hill

Headhunter said...

Fellow cyclists - have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAOHhV1EFe4

Sorry Jon, still not sure how to make it click-able...

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

How often do you guys go on a bike ride? That sounds good fun! I used to cycle all the time back in the good old days when was away from the big smoke...

Headhunter said...

We haven't been out as a group at all yet but I think we all cycle regularly on our own or with DP. I cycle in and out of work every day too

Pete said...

I'm moving my ride to Sunday if anyone wants to join me. I will leave Cafe St Germain at 10am if you fancy it. Will do the Saturday route as I haven't been on a proper ride since June! Speed should be slightly faster than DP Saturday speed with fewer stops if we are all going along at the same sort of speeds.

I will be there with my girlfriend Lara who was at the drinks on Wednesday. Will wear either my DP shirt or my bones jacket if it is cold.

Headhunter said...

Oh "poop", I can't do Sunday... Well perhaps we could do a Brockley Central ride the weekend after this? I like the idea of doing the DP Saturday run at a slightly faster speed, the Sat morning runs can be a bit slow sometimes, was thinking about doing a Sunday run but not sure if I wouldn't get dropped!

Graeme said...

I'm thinking of doing the Sydenham Wheelers reliability trial on Sunday week. Departing Knockholt at 9.00. We could use that as an inaugural jaunt.
(Does anybody have a car to get to the start? Otherwise it ends up being 100 hilly miles!)

Headhunter said...

Hmmmm, I think jaunts that involve car journeys could be a bit of a pain. Haven;t got a car myself and we'd need a car with bike racks etc

Graeme said...

Yes. Worth a try though!

HH - if you want to try a slightly longer ride tomorrow, then get up to Cafe St Germain (CSG) for 8.15 and introduce yourself to Ken, Greig et al (all thoroughly nice chaps), who'll probably head down Ide Hill way for 3-4 hours or so. Slightly faster (and definately further) than the regular ride - with less stopping. Unfortunately, I'll be hungover, and totally unable to haul my sorry arse out of bed at such an ungodly hour.

Apologies Brockley Nick/Jon. I feel like I'm hijacking your forum to arrange social functions.

Perhaps we should set up a 'Brockley Wheelers' Google Group where we can discuss riding bicycles (but never get around to actually riding them...)

Hugh said...

Am also up for some group rides, preferably starting in the Brock although I'm happy to take an easy train ride to another starting point.

By the way, getting to Knockholt isn't hard. Trains to Knockholt from Hither Green take 22 minutes.

Am off to Richmond Park now but will log in later to see who's doing what tomorrow (Sunday).

Graeme said...

Hugh - thanks! I didn't know that. Looks like I might be tipping up in Knockholt tomorrow for the Old Port's Reliability too. (Bound to be engineering works though. There always is on those rare occasions when I try to take a train).

Anybody else?

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

I cant cycle tommorrow, but really up for going on one soon.

How long do you normally cycle for?

Graeme said...

Between 2-3 hours at this time of year, but 7 hours is not unknown on a warm and sunny day.

Hugh said...

Went out for a 50-miler yesterday and having some clicking on my bottom bracket (as the bishop said to the actress).

Am tempted to give the Endwell Road bike servicing team a try rather than Evans. Anyone have a link to their website?

Graeme said...

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thecycleteam/index.jhtml

(Not sure why I'm plugging them though. They didn't get back to me when I pestered them for a job...)

Tried the Hither Green option to Knockholt, and today's excuse for shutting down the whole line for 40 minutes was that there was somebody walking along the tracks. Hopeless.
I missed the start, naturally.

Headhunter said...

Anyone out this coming weekend? Either Sat or Sun but preferably Sun. Perhaps round the DP Sat ride route or further?

Pete said...

Yes me, I might actually go on the Saturday ride and go on an extended version. The ride on Sunday was great, the weather made such a difference. I had a huge smile on my face as I rode through Downe.

Hugh said...

I may well be up for a ride this weekend, provided Evans fix something first. Sat or Sun morning?

Headhunter said...

I am thinking of trying the DP Sunday ride this weekend, I've done a few Saturday rides and the pace is sometimes a bit slow although not completely sure that I would keep up with the Sunday ride! Anyone else?

Graeme said...

I'm up for a potter on Saturday. Not too early though, because the roads might still be icy.


HH I'm trying to stir up some interest in the Sydenham reliability ride on Sunday. (Check the DP forum). Riding to knockholt and back will turn it into between 80 and 100 miles - with some fairly killer climbs - depending on which route you do.

A lot of the regular Sunday riders from DP will be racing at Chertsey, so who'll turn up on Sunday at CSG is anybody's guess. It'll probably be the usual unplanned chaos and you might end up 'getting dropped' in the middle of Kent/Surrey/Sussex somewhere, so
take a map or be prepared to get lost!

Headhunter said...

Yeah, well if I get dropped I'll be back to the Saturday ride! Or perhaps the early Saturday ride which goes a bit further

Pete said...

I have done the Sunday ride quite a few times and never got dropped. They wait at the top of most of the more difficult hills and often intersperse high speed bits with more relaxed riding to give everyone a breather (although this all goes totally unspoken!).

They can be a bit difficult to prepare for though, I never have a clue how far they plan on riding and the route sometimes gets made up on the road.

Headhunter said...

Pete - That makes things tougher doesn't it? If you have an end in mind you can almost prepare your body and mind and retain the right amount of energy to get through to the end, if you have no idea where you are and how far is left to go that could be a killer! You definitely doing the Sat ride rather than Sun this weekend?

Graeme! Saw your comment on the DP website and tried to post a reply but it won't let me! I'll reply later if I can...

Pete said...

It does make it more difficult, but you just have to make sure to ask plenty of questions when you arrive at the cafe about how far does everyone want to go, how long do they think it will take, are there any shops on the way if I run out of water or food. The ride is for training but it is also supposed to be fun for everyone there and they are all a friendly bunch.

I'm definitely doing the Saturday ride or at least setting off with them. If it is painfully slow I may push on depending on how Lara is feeling and I may add Toys Hill on to the Saturday route for a bit of added interest.

You're welcome to join me if you like. The following week I won't be out on my bike as my parents are coming to stay with me but the week after that I might manage a Sunday ride.

Headhunter said...

Pete - I'll have a think - might do Sat, I'll see how I feel on Friday. Would definitely like to do a Sunday sometime soon so let me know if you're doing it in a couple of weeks

Headhunter said...

Anyone fancy getting out for a ride this coming Sat? I was thinking about doing the usual Dulwich Paragon Sat ride at a slightly faster pace, perhaops leaving a bit later and catching up with them back at the cafe. Anyone interested? Only thing is that the 5 day forecast says that Sat could be pretty wet...

Headhunter said...

Well it seems that Sat and Sun have been downgraded to light showers and sun. I think I'm going to do the DP Sat morning ride on Sunday morning. Anyone interested? Pete? Tom? Hugh? Graeme? Anyone else?

Headhunter said...

Well it seems that Sat and Sun have been downgraded to light showers and sun. I think I'm going to do the DP Sat morning ride on Sunday morning. Anyone interested? Pete? Tom? Hugh? Graeme? Anyone else?

Pete said...

I'll come with you. My girlfriend Lara will be going to Herne hill unless it is raining so I will be free to come on a ride.

Incidentally.

Tom, your back wheel needs trueing...

Graeme said...

Yes. I'll join you, but I might split off at the turn-around to head further into Kent. I'm 'doing Flanders' (not the character from the Simpsons. Ooer) next week and need to get some miles in.

Tom said...

haha, I've only dusted off the road bike this week, so that's a curious one!

(but yes, both wheels need truing!)

sat morning am doing a 10k race so can't make it am afraid.

Headhunter said...

Excellent. A small posse. What time? Can we say 10? Don't want to make it too early, got a birthday party the night before. Where's a good spot to meet?

Headhunter said...

Excellent. A small posse. What time? Can we say 10? Don't want to make it too early, got a birthday party the night before. Where's a good spot to meet?

Headhunter said...

Tom - Sun morning not Sat morning. 10k race? Is that a run or cycle?

Tom said...

run. it's the BMF 10k, so a bit of an assault course. haha. should be a laugh (or wet and miserable!)

Sunday AM am in Birmingham so no can do either. another time!

Pete said...

I don't mind where we meet. Maybe outside Moonbow Jakes? I should warn you that if it is raining I will probably bail out as I can't be doing with riding in the wet.

Headhunter said...

Aha BMF. They meet on Blackheath don't they. I've thought about going before but there's only so much exercise one can cram into a week (around work) before the body gives out... I'm doing the Royal Parks Half Marathon later in the year - you should give that a go...

OK so 10am at Moonbow Jakes. I'll be there unless it's absolutely wazzing it down, if it's just grey with a fine drizzle I'll still go

Pete said...

The weather forecast isn't looking too good for tomorrow. They're forecasting heavy rain. If it does absolutely 'wazz' it down we could move the ride to Sunday when they are forecasting sun.

Headhunter said...

I was suggesting Sunday anyway in my 2nd post. I initially said Sat but can't do that any more. So Sunday, 10am in front of Moonbows? Sunday looks like it'll live up to its name

Graeme said...

Not forgetting that 10am is 9am in old money.

Headhunter said...

True. 11am better then or shall we just stick to 10?

g said...

Shall we say 11 then? Had a few uber-early mornings recently and wouldn't mind a lie-in. Besides, won't it be dark at the new 10 am?

Graeme said...

On second thoughts... I've just looked at the weather forecast. Having spent an hour cleaning my bike from last Sunday, I'm not sure I want to get it dirty again so soon. However, I might come out on my fixed, meaning slow on the flats, but mental uphill.

Pete said...

I think I would prefer 10am as it leaves some of the day to other stuff when we get back. 11am seems a bit late. I'll check here again in the morning to see what you've said and if this is the last comment I'll wait at the cafe until 10:10 and then set off on my own.

Pete said...

On second thoughts I'll see you all at 11.

Graeme said...

Well, it's a start! At 11am a brace of Brockley bicyclists set off from Moonbows for a medium-paced pootle around the North Downs. But a certain prolific poster on this blog was noticeable by his absence..

(with apologies for the cheesy alliteration)

Headhunter said...

So you were all there at 11? I went at 10 as originally planned, sorry I must've muddied the waters a bit with the 10 or 11 thing. Didn't see Pete's message at 9.45am, I was already on the way out. Well I had a pretty fast ride and managed to get lost but luckily met up with some other random cyclist who was heading back to Blackheath... So who turned up in the end?

Graeme said...

Just Pete and me. The funny thing is, is that It's only taken 2 1/2 months to get two of us to finally meet up!

From little acorns etc.

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

Only two of you? I should of brought my bike. Where did you guys go?

Headhunter said...

Ah well, perhaps we should try again next Sun if anyone is around? I don't know how I managed to get lost, although it's been a while since I've on the DP Sat route.... Somehow I got lost somewhere past Cudham and ended up on a lane with an oast house so turned back, went down a really steep hill, met some other cyclists who said I had to go back up the hill again and I eventually came across the good samaritan who helped me back to the grime of Lewisham...

Graeme said...

App&p. Through Catford, Beckenham, West Wickham, through the lanes around Biggin Hill, and then down the Downs to Pilgrims' Way (a well used lane by S London club cyclists which runs alongside the M25), a short and steep climb back up onto the ridge, then through Knockholt, Cudham, Downe, W Wickham, Catford and Home. 40 miles, and thanks to Pete's pace-setting, my legs now ache.

Can't do next Sunday as I'll be in Belgium watching the fastest drug addicts in the world race their bikes over the cobbles, and through the Flandrian mud.

HH - at least you made it as far as an oast-house! It wouldn't be a bike ride if you didn't feel that you'd temporarily escaped the grot that is SE London.

Headhunter said...

Yeah I went out of London via Crystal Palace, past the Cafe St Germain. As you can tell my sense of direction is a bit crap at times and I now know that bit of the route out well. I ended up going round in circles for a bit as mentioned before the random stranger from Blackheath took me back via Beckenham - I must have returned via the route you left London by. We went at quite a pace on the way back! The Blackheath guy said that he was entered for the Etape (is that the right spelling? Not absolutely sure what he meant) and was trying to get miles in and had already been out for 3 hours by the time I met him at about 12. I think I must hav clocked nearly 50 miles by the end of it all. Good ride though and the sun started to come out as we rode into Catford and Lewisham... Beautiful....

Headhunter said...

Graeme - did you do the ride on the fixie? No wonder your legs are aching!

Pete said...

Shall we go out next Sunday then? Graeme's going to be away in Flanders riding the Koppenberg so it might just be me and HH.

I really enjoyed the ride and the different route out was good although I doubt I can remember it.

Next week let's go out at 10 and stick to that time so that we can get back at a reasonable time.

I had a great afternoon sorting the garden out when I got back. Let's hope the weather is this nice next week.

Headhunter said...

OK. 10am next week. Anyone else is welcome - if you can keep up! Pete - do you know any good routes? I'm afraid I don't off the top of my head... I could try planning one though if you don't know one... I spent all afternoon cleaning the mud and spray off the bike. It's just like new again now. Hope the weather is nice next week if only so that I don't have to spend all afternoon cleaning my trusty steed...

Graeme said...

No, I used the once-clean gearie. I'm unfit, Pete's faster than me, and I'm saving fixed-purgatory for tomorrow.

(Sorry HH - can't quite bring myself to adopt the Americanism 'fixie', when the word 'fixed' has been used in British cycling circles for 70 years. ;) ) If anyone's wondering what on earth we're talking about, 'fixed' refers to fixed gear, that is, a bike with only one gear which you can't freewheel on, like you had when you six years old. Except bigger and with curly handlebars (and often without the stabilisers). It gets you fit blo*dy quickly with the trade-off that it hurts more to ride - as probably testified by our current crop of World Track Champions who can be seen riding them on telly at the moment.

Headhunter said...

Oh is that an Americanism? I had no idea... I'll stop using it...

Graeme said...

Actually, I was hoping to draw you (and others - perhaps not a good idea...) into a Sunday night blog-war over what constitutes correct English!

To me, the the word 'fixed' sounds more direct and gritty than the slightly fey sounding 'fixie', and probably reflects the more hardcore image I like to have of myself when riding my bike in the British climate!

Anonymous said...

Surely the words 'hardcore' and 'riding my bike' don't belong in the same sentence together...

Tom said...

In answer to the last poster.

There are some more of the worlds on that guy's flickr, as well as from Herne Hill on Good Friday.

Anonymous said...

Macho.

Headhunter said...

I always try to use GB English whenever possible and whenever I know there's a difference. Nothing particularly against US English, just that I'm not American... I noticed Nick and a couple of others using "behavior" last week... tut tut!

Tom said...

More popular than you anon!

Pete said...

I know the Saturday route like the back of my hand and I know an extension to it to Toys Hill which is nice and makes it a little more challenging.

10 am Sunday it is.

Anonymous said...

Not exactly Old Trafford is it?

Headhunter said...

Excellent. We can give the extension route a try perhaps. Cyclists always talk of Toys Hill in hushed, awed tones but I'd like to give it a go sometime. I've got another birthday party on Sat night so I might need to sweat the alcohol out of my system!

Pete said...

Toys Hill isn't all that bad and you get outside the M25.

Tom said...

Most of the routes S of London are on bikely somewhere abouts. Here's Dulwich's ride of the falling leaves, which is 100km and a bit hilly.

Headhunter said...

You know, looking at that map, the ride of the falling leaves, I may have actually cycled down and then back up Toy's Hill yesterday. I certainly ended up outside the M25 because I remember passing back over it on the way home. At 1 point though I followed a couple of other cyclists down a steep hill in the vain hope that they were heading back to London, but when I caught up with them, they said they were heading further into Kent, so I turned round and headed back up the hill. Looks like it must've been about where I was...

Headhunter said...

Oh dear Pete. BBC 5 day forecast predicts we're due heavy snow on Sunday. Hope you're feeling "Old Trafford" hard enough...

Pete said...

I saw that! I don't have any faith in their 5 day forecast to be honest and hopefully it will change for the better.

My mum would probably say something about there being no such thing as 'bad weather' just 'inappropriate clothing' and tell me to get on with it.

Headhunter said...

Yeah well I'm game. I'll put the ski gloves on and a few more layers than usual. Just as long as there's no ice along the lanes of Kent!

Tom said...

The Sainsbury's in East Dulwich has found fame.

For having the most ridiculous cycle lane!

Pete said...

You still ok for Sunday morning?

Pete said...

You still ok for Sunday morning?

Headhunter said...

I'm still OK. See you at 10am outside Moonbows? Tom - are you coming? Hugh - if you still visit the site

Headhunter said...

Has anyone ever been out on a ride with the Witcomb Cycles Club?

http://www.witcombcycles.co.uk/club/index.htm

Pete said...

See you at 10am if you don't have a bad hangover.

Headhunter said...

Pete - Hmmm, think we may have to postpone the ride?! The snow seems to be laying quite thick and it's likely to be worse in the middle of Kent! What do you think?

Pete said...

I totally agree with you! I'm away next weekend too unfortunately.

We could do the Wednesday chaingang instead?

Headhunter said...

Wed chaingang meets at Elmers End at 7 by the looks of things, I don't know if I could make it out of work and get down there in time to be honest! I'll have to let you know on Tue, I'll have a better idea of whether I'll have to work late by then. The earliest I can get out of the office is at about 6. If not we could meet the weekend after? If anyone else is around next week, theres a possibility I will be...

Headhunter said...

Sorry Pete but the more I think about it the less likely I think it's going to be that I'm going to make it on Wed. I rarely manage to get out of here dead on 6 and I would have to head home to drop my bag off/pick up my "good" bike and then head off again and make it to Elmers End by 7. If you're away next weekend, pencil something in for the week after?

Headhunter said...

Pete, Graeme, anyone else - I've managed to rope a couple of friends into the Saturday DP ride this weekend, so I'll be meeting them there at the usual time, but do either of you feel like separating from the main group and doing a longer ride out to Toys Hill or wherever? We could meet outside Moonbows, head to the cafe and then on...

Pete said...

Sorry not to reply in time. I might well be up for going on a ride this Saturday if the weather is nice. Having raced at Palace on Tuesday I realise that I need to do some serious training. I will do a long version of the Saturday route if you are interested?

Headhunter said...

Sorry Pete - didn't check the cycle lane before the weekend. How about this coming Sunday, the 4th May?

Graeme said...

Likewise. Could be up for Saturday also. 3-4 hours moderate pace. That sort of thing.

Headhunter said...

Can't do Sat, but Sun definitely if everyone's interested

Headhunter said...

Actually, Monday may be better... Anyone interested?

Headhunter said...

...In fact definitely Monday - according to the 5 day forecast it's going to be gorgeous.... Finally an end to the incessant rain...

Headhunter said...

Anyone out there? Think I'm going to head out for a spin on Sunday morning. Is anyone around?

Graeme said...

A few of us (recovering from illnesses and time off the bike) who have decided against riding the Dunwich Dynamo will be leaving CSG at 9am for Canterbury via Whitstable tomorrow. We'll be stopping in the villages along the way to perform our morris dancing and hopefully getting half a gallon of bitter on board by the seaside. Train back.

I imagine there'll be a few impromptu un-Mark Cavendish-like sprints along the way too. Wear DP kit if you've got it.

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Im up for a spin if anyone is organising anything.

novice said...

has anyone used the Cycle Team in Brockley for servicing their bike? I have an ancient bike that needs reviving before we can hit the road

Brockley Nick said...

@Novice - yes and I recommend them.

Headhunter said...

Ooh how exciting, some chat on the cycle lane. What's wrong with the wheel, Novice? It may not be worth reviving unless it's a decent lightweight alloy job, the cost of truing it and replacing spokes may exceed the cost of the wheel. However if it's just a matter of one or 2 spokes that have gone ping, then perhaps OK

novice said...

headhunter your talk is too advanced for me - spokes gone ping sounds much more cool. the problem is not the wheel but the whole bike - it was a pressie ten years ago and i'm on a budget so no need for a new one - gears seem to crunch and grind more often than i think they should, both tyres are dead and there are also two old chains attached to it which need sawing off... thanks nick for the reply - I'll give them a go

Headhunter said...

Hi Novice, just noticed this message fromover a month ago! Hope you got the bike sorted. Hopefully the work didn't cost more than the value of the bike as I suggested.

Anyone out this weekend? Think I'll join the faster Sat ride with DP tomorrow morning unless it's really p*ssing down

Brockley Nick said...

Cycling on Friday, traffic home along the Old Kent Road was completely log-jammed. Does anyone know if this is par for the course while Blackheath Hill gets repaired or was it just one of those days?

Headhunter said...

I didn't notice it has been particularly any more jammed up that usual. It's just the way it is along the OKR at rush hour.

Pete said...

I've decided not to bother with the King of the downs ride. I can go out on a ride for free with Dulwich...

graeme said...

I could be up for a blast down to the Knatts on Sat morning. (When I say blast, I mean medium/easy).

Topped off with a Messy pudding and a trip up to Westminster to watch the fastest drug-addicts in the world? What could be better? Though I might take my motorbike. Last time I went for a spin with you my legs hurt.

Headhunter said...

Graeme - Sorry not to have said hello to you on the Sat fast ride this morning, I didn't realise it was you until I saw you peel off at Elmers End, then it clicked in my head. I'll say something next time.

graeme said...

This is embarrassing! Were you on the Focus wearing a yellow top/black shorts? I've totally forgotten what you look like (except for your height)!

Headhunter said...

Yes that was me on the Focus dressed in black. I almost mentioned on here yesterday that I would be on the Sat morning ride. Next time I'll say hello. It's been nearly 2 years since we spoke in the flesh!

The Cat Man said...

HH, are you tall? :)

graeme said...

Well well! Nice to meet you again HH. I only turned up because one of the others texted me to get my a*se out of bed and be there! I was expecting to be on newbie-ushering duties, but somehow got roped into the fast ride. Got dropped on Layhams and Beddlestead too. Oh the shame! I shall never live it down :-)

Anonymous said...

awww. . . HH has a friend.

Headhunter said...

Cat Man - I'm about 6'3"

Graeme - Let me know next time you're out or if you fancy a ride outside the usual DP schedule of rides

The Cat Man said...

I like tall guys :)

Anonymous said...

Be afraid, be very afraid.....

graeme said...

Coming back in through Chislehurst this afternoon after a quick blast out to Polhill, I got chatting to a fellow sporting bicyclist after unsuccessfully trying to shake him off* going up White Horse Hill.

Me: 'Where are you heading to?'

Chap: 'Brockley'

Welcome to the fold Nick. If you've found this blog that is.

*don't even think about it

angel said...

i am especially fond of laynie browne’s take in her 2007 book daily sonnets…lovely gentle surprising fun familial. she takes after bernadette mayer…
have you done a sonnet prompt for read/write/poem yet?
online informal

Social Enterpriser said...

I have set up a group on https://cyclechallenge.tfl.gov.uk/
called 'Brockley Foxes' for us local Borckley cyclists (and anyyone else who fancies it), to enter in the TFL cycle challenge and win prizes.
Take a look and join us if you fancy the challenge.

Brockley Nick said...

Cyclists also own cars and are more likely to be men shock!

"Regular cyclists – those who cycle at least once a week – are also disproportionately likely to read broadsheet newspapers, be well educated, have a household income of at least £50,000 per year and shop at Waitrose, says the latest Mintel report on bicycles. In addition, they are twice as likely to be men as women."

http://bit.ly/cQDPeH

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max said...

Stay there.

Cox Cd said...

Im starting to ride my little shopper once again so I need a route that gets me to Sainsburys Newcross thats fast and avoids Goldsmiths college if poss.  bless yer  chris

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