The Brockley Common Meadow

The Brockley Cross Action Group writes:

The BXAG has received funding to create a community wildflower meadow at the north end of
Brockley Common. This will be of great benefit to bees and other wildlife and we hope it will become an eye catching blaze of colour for everyone passing by.

Come and help us create something beautiful!

PREPARATION DAY: SUNDAY 17TH APRIL, 1.00-6.00pm
PLANTING & SEEDING DAY: EASTER GOOD FRIDAY 22ND APRIL, 1.00-5.00pm

Tools, gloves and hot refreshments will be provided – just bring stout footwear and warm clothing. Meet at the Broca CafĂ©. Come and join in!

37 comments:

Ian on The Hill said...

OK, let's be honest here: it's not a common. It's not open to all, you would have a tough time grazing sheep on it and it's the size of a postage stamp. And it won't be a meadow - it will an outsize windowbox.

Don't get me wrong, I approve of anything that makes London greener, opens up land for public gardening and tarts the place up, but let's not get to up ourselves about this.

Feed the bees said...

So it's making London greener, which you approve off. I think everyone knows it's not for imaginary sheep. Chill, if the bees are happy, I'm happy.

Anonymous said...

Hmm, hot mung tea.

Ed CPZ said...

I'm surprised at the lack of supportive comments, the common project has certainly made me smile.

Anonymous said...

Where is Brockley Common? Is it the land by the station on Coulgate street?

Brockley Nick said...

Yip

small ones are more juicy said...

Brockley common is about making the most of what you have no matter how small. Something I imagine some of you here can relate to...

Crofty said...

Brilliant! I planted a bunch of wildflower seeds in my tiny strip of garden last year and they're now up and flowering and the difference in wildlife is incredible - it hums with life.

Anonymous said...

I'd really like to see a standing stone there. According to old maps there used to be one near the station.

Anonymous said...

It could do with some nicer railings and Victorian lamp posts...

MikeSE13 said...

It's smaller than my garden! Does that mean if I open up my back gate, I will have a common too?

Speaking of common land, can't we all go and plant seeds on the "cricket pitch" because I sure as hell am getting peed off with our common land being out of bounds.

Mondee said...

Mike, that is very impatient of you. A small part of a large park has been fenced off for a short period of time - relatively speaking - for the good of the community. Soon it will offer yet another resource to the people local to Hilly Fields - isn't that worth the mild inconvenience of not being able to run from one end of the field to the other without making a small detour round a fence?

Anonymous said...

Why the cynicism? I've been hugely grateful for the massive improvement to the land near the station brought about by a band of dedicated volunteers. The planting certainly lifts my mood every time I use the station.

feed the bees said...

'our common land' yes, so the it's to be used to benefit as many different users in as many different ways resulting in greater general welbeing. Unfortunatly you can't please all the people all the time, I seem to remember some people objecting to a playground of all things! It's a recreation ground, I've got the old maps that describe it as that. It's not a virgin meadow, it's managed.

It's not your land wheras your garden is so that's a totaly spurious comparison

Anonymous said...

The objections to the playground were based on there already being one. It was one of a series of "replace it anyway" projects that occured in Brockley at the time. The playground, the ramp to the station, speedicars sign...

Pete said...

The renewed playground is a vast improvement on the old one though. It gets used an incredible amount too.

My son uses it at least once a day.

drakefell debaser said...

Get a life, Speedicars was more than 3 years ago.

Anyway, to you it might be 'replace it anyway' and to others it is improving what is there. Progress, you know.

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, let's review those objections:

Objection 1: We're just replacing one playground with another - insignificant net benefit.

It was obviously a silly objection then and is stupider in hindsight. The playground is a completely different, better place. Much more used - parents and kids love it.

Objection 2: The ramp would make no difference to the look of the place and what is the point of doing one side without the other?

The station is obviously improved - the common is well used (hence threads like this) and walking past the flowers every day is a delight. As has been pointed out, the other side will have step free access eventually, but just because that will be a few years coming, why not do this side now, when the money is available and when it saves at least one set of stairs and makes access to the ticket office step free.

Objection 3: Asking Speedicars to replace their tacky plastic sign was hounding business and would make no odds.

Speedicars replaced it and they are still a thriving business. No harm done to them and Coulgate Street is our one decently maintained bit of town centre, at least when the vans aren't in the way.

3-0 to optimists over trolls.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

I noticed today work appears to be starting on the old speedicars office site.

Retail unit with flats over was proposed is this still the case.

On a similar theme the old W P Stone Factory is quickly coming down. The roof is off and the sign has gone.

Anonymous said...

nice environments can make a difference....

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/04/07/disordered-environments-promote-stereotypes-and-discrimination/

Anonymous said...

I kinda liked it before the changes when it was all wild and left to nature...

Anonymous said...

It felt more rural before it was tidied up and the 'common' was created. Disabled access was easier then too.

Brockley Nick said...

How would you know how rural it seemed? You couldn't get to it or see it. Disabled access wasn't easier, it was worse, which is why they insisted on a much less steep ramp

Anonymous said...

No disabled access was better before. And it looked more rural before. I liked it better before. I reserve the right to prefer how it was before.

Brockley Nick said...

You also have the right to believe that the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese.

Soma said...

I actually also preferred the common and station in its former state. You can still see how it was on google maps streetview. Loads of trees, with a meadow, much more tranquil and rural. Which obviously you could see Nick, are you blind?

What there is now, is lots of low level formalized planting, which while not without it's merits feels more like a giant flower bed in a park. Which I don't think is a very good exchange.

I understand this is your blog Nick so you can treat it how you wish, and you obvious spend more time thinking about Brockley than any sane person has reason to. But I have noticed more and more that when someones opinion differs from yours, you can be very smug, and say they are either wrong, or ignorant of the facts, or you make some sarky comment. It's like the Brockley thought police sometimes.

Anonymous said...

@Soma

What you say is nonsense. The current planting looks great and obviously needs 2 - 3 years to mature. There was no arcadian meadow there before. I can clearly remember it being distinctly depressing/crap before the BCAG decided to do something (hats off to them). There may have been a few trees but it was also full of weeds, rubbish and an ex-toilet block (or similar strucure)which was demolished.

Brockley Ben said...

Funny how Streetview often seems to paint a slightly rosier picture than reality (or memory). Looks quite nice, really, not least because it the station building itself is hidden.

That's certainly not my memory of Brockley Station experience, though, and I much prefer the open and welcoming vista. The flowers are great. More please.

aunty kate said...

I must say, as a canal and narrowboat fan, I do regret the loss of the towpath style bridge access. I know it was a bit steep but I can't say the big flight of steps is easier for the not fully able-bodied, and the big detour for bikes and pushchairs must be a bit of a pain. However the plants instead of the disused toilets are nicer. Although I think we could do with some public toilets, from the number of smelly puddles in Foxberry Road in the evening. When did a householder's front garden become an acceptable place to pee?

volunteer said...

Soma, the area you refer to was fenced off from the public. There was no meadow, just weeds and dense shrubbery.

Ed CPZ said...

Speechless!

Brockley Nick said...

@Soma - I like to argue with people, and I expect to be argued with. That's part of the fun. Personally, I dislike it when people ignore points and just say "well I reserve the right to think what I like in spite of the facts."

Yes, Streetview puts a relatively nice gloss on it, but as others have said, it was fenced / walled off so no-one could see it properly and the accessibility issues is black and white - the old ramp was not compliant with modern accessibility standards - the new one is. It's not a matter of personal opinion.

Molewife said...

It would be nice to have a tree or two again though...

Brockley Dogging Society said...

Auntie Kate - if it's public facilities you're after, pop up Hilly Fields tonight after 8:30 and one of our members should be able to give you a hand. There's a Greek guy called Georgios who knows all the best spots, and as a bonus he's really into his organic produce - just make sure you take the tube rather than let him drive.

BDS x

Anonymous said...

The view on Google Streetview is after the first round of work was carried out.
Before that it was mostly mature trees and shrubbery.

Anonymous said...

One persons mature trees and shrubbery is anothers oppressive tangle of ivy and weeds. It already looks better, when it's in full bloom it will look great. The greens support the new version, they're hardly known for their slash and burn schemes.

Well done to BCAG

Tamsin said...

I expect the police do too - open sight lines are better.

Do old streetviews have the date hidden in them somewhere? It would be nice to know how old such images are - something that would be even more useful as the archive builds up.

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