Shardeloes rehab centre application

Substance abuse rehabilitation charity CRI  has applied to convert the Old Bank Building at the Brockley Cross end of Shardeloes Road into a rehab centre.

The application is for a facility which will offer counselling, clinical prescribing, needle exchange and aftercare.

The proposal, which has been heavily trailed, is opposed by the Brockley Cross Action Group and welcomed by Brockley's Cllr Johnson.

In Brockley Central's view, this is a poor location for the centre, failing on two of the criteria which it sets itself: The Council want to relocate from Lewisham to make it more accessible to patients from Brockley, Deptford and New Cross, but which this site lacks any nearby public transport links with Deptford. The Council wants such facilities to be located in commercial areas, but this is primarily residential.

Despite these reservations and the evasive consultation process, we're of the view that this new centre won't bring narcopocalypse to Brockley. Life will go on. It probably will cause some problems (to pretend otherwise is an insult to people with genuine concerns), but probably not that many (to suggest it will radically change the area is an overstatement). It might even persuade the police and the Council to take the problem of drug dealing at this location more seriously.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

Brockley Rehab Centre - Will Lewisham Council say - No No No...

Mrs Bucket said...

but how will this affect the price of my nearby 5 bedroom victorian house i bought for a song 10 year ago?

Anonymous said...

"Luckily, the amount of heroin I use is harmless, I inject about once a month on a purely recreational basis. Fine. But what about other people less stable, less educated, less middle-class than me? Builders or blacks for example. If you're one of those, my advice is leave well alone. Good luck."

Anonymous said...

Take the blinkers off peeps, it's Brockley Cross of the famous double mini roundabout that any taxi driver worth their salt will know!

closet Brockley-ite said...

Ah well, there's always Goldsmiths to prop up the neighborhood when it goes to the dogs. Oh wait, we can't stand Goldsmiths either...

Anonymous said...

Lewisham Council never intended to say no to the proposal, nor did they want to hold a consultation until Labour councillors forced them to.

Based on LC and CRI attempts to withheld information, mislead and misinform residents at every stage of the "consultation" I sincerely doubt they give a toss about the local community.

I'd like to know how the blame game goes when due to budget cuts the council refers high risk clients to a supposedly low risk service and some client does something naughty.

Anonymous said...

Nice "consultation" and lovely we didn't even get a response from the petition

Anonymous said...

Mmmm....can't wait....cheers Lewisham Council.

This is what we pay our council tax for!

Anonymous said...

"This is what we pay our council tax for!" yes, agreed. We pay it for services like this, treatment services or addicts trying get clean, we all benefit, whether we are addicts or potential victims of addicts behaviour.

You see?

Anonymous said...

send them to do hard labour in the colonies

Anonymous said...

It's an excellent use of a good building in, lets be frank, a pretty unfriendly location in more ways than one - I believe this will lead to the 'regeneration' of the area - bring it on - good old Lewisham Council (I live in Ladywell)

Anonymous said...

Hmmm ... so deptford, ladywell and nunhead get high street regeneration and brockley gets a drug centre - nice to know Lewisham council is focussed on the regeneration of this area. Sure, the drug centre will help recovering addicts, but what about some kind of positive contribution to everyone else who lives in the area? Surely this shouldn't just be left to commercial developments?

Anonymous said...

dump it in brockley... Lewisham Master Plan

Anonymous said...

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/no-to-drug-alcohol-centre-in-brockley-cross/signatures.html

Anonymous said...

Put it in Catford, place is already a dump.

Anonymous said...

Surely the new health centre in New Cross would be a good site? Walk in doctor clinic on hand if anyone has any health issues, incredibly close to New Cross Station (which is better connected than Brockley).

I have no idea if this kind of centre would attract drug dealers but would be very against it if that was the case.

Anonymous said...

Just say no, or yes, it's up to you.

Anonymous said...

Love how much Chris Morris stuff makes it onto this site.

kolp said...

"Put it in Catford, place is already a dump."

I suppose satire is the only way to deal with such uncomfortable issues.

Anonymous said...

that's not satire, go to catford if you don't believe me...

anon said...

Catford is a dump and Brockley will head that way of this goes ahead . Unbelievable .

Anonymous said...

@ Mrs Bucket,

bitter are we? there are plenty of homeowners who live nearby who don;t own a five bed victorian bed, but if they did who gives a.. they've worked for what they've got and affect on house prices is a legitimate concern, what with brown raising the pension pot, and banks breaking the nation.

and before you start with your sarcasm, no - I'm not a homeowner nor am likely to be for a long time. But your snidey comment is poor reflection on you than those who own a five bed place.

Dicon said...

The Lewisham.gov.uk site records that there have been on 4 objections and 0 petitions against the planning proposal for change of use of the old bank building.

This seems very low considering the amount of opposition voiced during the initial consultation process. I would guess that this is because:

1. Only 88 very close neighbours received letters of notification.
2. Some residents were expecting to see a sign up whereas this isn't compulsory outside a conservation area.
3. Many residents may assume that because they expressed objections during the pre-planning consultation, these would count in the planning process.
4. Some of objectors may be sick of the issue after the long drawn out pre-planning consultation with its constant frustration of appeals for clear information and unbiased data gathering.

The latter two are all-too-common effects of pre-planning consultations.

There is still just time to submit a 'late letter' raising objections to, or expressing concerns about, the proposed centre.

If you would like to comment on the application, you can send an email to planning@lewisham.gov.uk including the Application Number (DC/12/79206/FT), your name, address, comment and reason for interest.

I have expressed the following concerns:

The proposed site is in an area adjacent to a large high-density residential area than includes child care centres and schools. During the pre-planning consultation, CRI showed no awareness of this fact and confirmed their ignorance by repeatedly referring to the location as a 'high street'.

CRI also showed no awareness that the immediate area is known for entrenched drug dealing and how poor the transport links are to New Cross, Deptford and Evelyn - the very areas it is supposed to serve. A justificaltion for the northern hub was that chaotic drug users found it difficult to travel to Lewisham, yet the realisation of the hub would mean that many have to catch multiple buses rather than one.

Section 23 of the Application Form states that there will be no hazardous waste, but we are told in the Supporting Letter that there would be a needle exchange which necessarily entails bio-hazardous waste.

While the Supporting Letter gives assurances that clients will attend on an appointment-only basis, and be 'asked' to sign agreements covering behaviour around the premises, it is not clear if this applies to needle exchangers.

I also was suprised to see that 'clinical prescribing' was to be one of the functions mentioned in the Supporting Letter. One message that CRI managed to be consistent on throughout the pre-planning consultation was that there would be no prescribing.

Anonymous said...

The needles will be disposed off using a sharps bin, as they would be in a GPs. Would you prefer they are chucked over a wall? Perscribing, many high street chemists (including in Brockley) dispense methadone.

Those two points are not especially compelling reasons to reject the centre.

Anonymous said...

This comment thread defines NIMBYism.

Bring it on - I for one support the centre and pompously trying to find reasons against it whilst munching your organic grissini makes me feel sick.

Anonymous said...

I'm the last anon, I support the centre. I'm a classic lefty liberal, a textbook 'mung' if you're into stupid categories.

Think you'll find the most vociferous anti lobby would use the childish language in your post.

(I've just been drawn in haven't I?)

Dicon said...

Today I saw that there's now a sign up on the old bank building about the planning application. It gives folk until 22 March to express concerns/raise objections.

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no name said...

it's
Brockley Cross of the famous double mini roundabout just think the exisitng shop on the corner would have provided a vast amount of business if the proposal for the centre went through (druggies would have eventually admitted their selves)

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