England v USA, Saturday June 12th, 7.30pm



So, we've downloaded the World Cup calendar into Outlook from the BBC website, we've thumbed our Guardian guide to the tournament, we've entered the sweepstake and chosen our fantasy league team.

Brockley Central is almost ready for the start of South Africa 2010.

The only remaining issue is which pub we should choose to watch England v the USA on Saturday night. We raised the issue before and it seems to boil down to two venues - the Wickham Arms or The Talbot. Both will be doing special screenings. Both sell beer.

What matters to us is which will have the best atmosphere. So we've created a poll. Tell us which of the two you'll be going to and we will be guided by you.

Thanks - and see you there!

81 comments:

HappyBrockers said...

It's the Wickham Arms for me!

Monkeyboy said...

I wrote a devestaingly witty post but it got lost in the ether...

The Wickham obviously, leave the olives to those wot wants 'em.

Mb said...

..sigh, spelling went a bit mental there.

Robert said...

Orchard - pre match drinks.
Talbot - first half
Wickham Arms - second half
Royal Albert - after match drinks ???

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

I am un-reliably informed tonight's (8th June 2010) Wickham quiz is a World Cup special.

See you there, we need more competition.

Anonymous said...

I will only frequent the Wickham if in time honoured world cup tradition:-

At least 3 references to how the shadows on the pitch are just like 1966
The potential for punch up when very drunk man decides to support Englands opponents- vociferously
Fat Les Vindaloo played at ear splitting volume during every commercial break

Those were the days!

Anonymous said...

what pubs are NOT showing football? I wish to avoid it.

drakefell debaser said...

Try Scotland.

LoveFootball said...

Or stay at home in a darkened room.

Nux said...

Why isn't there a "Neither, I can't wait for the whole stupid thing to be over" button?

God I am in a sunny mood today ;-)

Outcast said...

Try mixing with the wider community at The Barge

Anonymous said...

Hup Hup !

Tamsin said...

The Telegraph in Dennetts Road (SE14 5LW if you need to do a web map search for it) is offering a football free zone for the duration.

Sounds promising....

Curmudgeon of Crofton Park said...

I will be avoiding going anywhere - does anyone know how long I need to keep my head down for while this football business is on?

Anonymous said...

Well the Final is on the 11th of July.
Looks like The Telegraph Pub will be missing out on getting some extra cash then.giving an alternative World Cup Free Zone ain't gonna work.

D said...

Argentina knock England out on July 3rd so things will get back to normal then.

Tamsin said...

Probably making a virtue of necessity - they don't have a large screen TV. Which for some regular clientele is a definite plus. You might miss out on big occasions (although every other watering hole in the vicinity is competing) but you gain with a loyal long-term client base.

Now Then said...

Does anyone know of anywhere showing Argentina Scotland which starts at 6.45?

LoveFootball said...

If thats the Rugby Now Then,I would suggest Scotland.

Now Then said...

I dont even mind missing the last 10 minutes...

LoveFootball said...

Unfortunately Tamsin in present times the World Cup is a great opportunity to make loads of dosh,the further England go the more money made.

Tamsin said...

But as with the music everywhere that is uncomfortably loud for some (and which means that it it is virtually impossible for us to find anywhere to eat out except a Weatherspoons, which have a policy against it) you have a majority imposing their taste on everyone.

I'm glad the Telegraph are holding out and will make a point of going there more often because of it.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

BBC2 Scotland are showing the Rugby - so Berwick On Tweed?.

njoywat said...

@ Tamsin 'it it is virtually impossible for us to find anywhere to eat out except a Weatherspoons' What about Mr Lawrence, Jam Circus or one of the many restaurants in the Brockley area which will probably serve better food than you'd get in a pub. There are many opportunities to escape the football without needing to grumble about general football-mania.

LoveFootball said...

True, and Wetherspoons are showing the World Cup anyway.

drakefell debaser said...

Time to watch the football badgers I think..http://ow.ly/1W91r

Tamsin said...

In talking about no-where to eat out I was not referring to football but to piped music. My other half is cursed with excellent lower register hearing (while I can hear a slight rumble from the TV next door he can identify the programme!). Most eating places tend to go for pop in the background rather than classical and if what you get when you take the plunge and sit down is livable with so often the next track has that impossible bass beat.

Anonymous said...

The Orchard has no music unless there is an event and I don't recall the Toads Mouth having any music. Le Querce? Not heard any music and La Lanterna didn't used to have any music in its previous guise. Do not recall any at Smiles Cafe, Long Time certainly has none. Babur? Can't remember. Chais Garden has soft oriental music I think but you can sit in the garden and hear none...

Blimey, your husband may have good hearing but I fear you are half cursed with a unique ability to find fault where there is none.

Tamsin said...

Agreed - and I did qualify the "impossible". And locally one obviously gets to know what's possible. My main grouch is the difficulty in trogging around an unfamiliar town in the early evening and, not being in the know, finding venue after venue ruled out because of the level and type of background music.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Good job they are English Badgers DD the Welsh one are not long for this world.

No a similar subject how long before we get the Brockley Hunt chasing foxes thorugh the streets.

Whoops gone rather off topic there.....

The Brockley and district said...

Banned, didnt ye know?

Tamsin said...

Well someone in Hackney was on the radio advocating shooting them

drakefell debaser said...

Yes, the Welsh badgers are unlikely to see Steven Gerrard lift the cup TM. Poor buggers. In this day and age you would think they could just give them an injection or something.

I think we have just as much reason to fear being run over by a fox driving a tractor as we do being attacked by one while we sleep. Hopefully common sense will prevail.

Cats on the otherhand..

Monkeyboy said...

Urban fox hunting on skateboards....! Sorts out the baby eating fox menace, gives the kids something to do and allows HH to contemplate life without the noise of wheels trundling on concrete echoing around his skull.

This is where this blog wins, finding solutions that the whole community can unite around. Truley camerons Big Society in action.

The Brockley and District said...

We did wonder at the time of the ban how long it might take before that somewhat sentimental view of reynard might be replaced by something akin to its opposite.

This wholly unsporting suggestion from Hackney seems to have answered that question to some extent.

Now Then said...

I think that a lot of The Talbots natural constituency would vote for the Wickham, so that the crowds headed in that direction and meant we could get to the bar for our beer and olives, We're a bit smart like that.

LoveFootball said...

Mm mm Olives,but I'll stick to The Wickham to watch the footie then swear at the shop on Lewisham Way as I buy a jar.Cant have both.

Anonymous said...

That clip makes you realise how much weight David Mitchell has lost since - I thought he was wearing a fat suit at first.

Anonymous said...

The Wickham has a barbecue all day and live music from 10 with Tony Lording and friends playing country blues and folk music. Remember musicians are for life not just the Brockley Max!
www.thewickhamarms.com

HardliaNotion said...

Anyway...

Wickham Arms for me.

Shaft said...

The Ladywell Tavern is only showing the football in their garage(!) so the rest of the pub will thankfully be a footie free zone.

This is a better Mitchell and Web sketch about football: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBgGqsvss0o

Anonymous said...

Council warning....

Outreach workers will visit licensed premises showing World Cup matches, to talk to revellers about safe drinking levels and travelling safely.

The Council will also be raising awareness about domestic violence during the World Cup via Twitter and Facebook.


Get a personal trainer?

•Pace yourself. Give your body a chance to catch up.

•Eat before, or while you watch, the match. Food slows the absorption process.

•Make a substitution. Think about swapping some alcoholic drinks for soft ones while you watch the game.



Home Office research shows that cases of domestic abuse increase by nearly 30 per cent on England match days.

http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NewsAndEvents/News/WorldCupSafety.htm

Anonymous said...

Council warning....

Outreach workers will visit licensed premises showing World Cup matches, to talk to revellers about safe drinking levels and travelling safely.

The Council will also be raising awareness about domestic violence during the World Cup via Twitter and Facebook.


Get a personal trainer?

•Pace yourself. Give your body a chance to catch up.

•Eat before, or while you watch, the match. Food slows the absorption process.

•Make a substitution. Think about swapping some alcoholic drinks for soft ones while you watch the game.



Home Office research shows that cases of domestic abuse increase by nearly 30 per cent on England match days.

http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NewsAndEvents/News/WorldCupSafety.htm

LoveFootball said...

Shouldn't be worrying about people in pubs,its the kids in parks and on Street corners they should be targeting.

Anonymous said...

I'm traveling there and back by skateboard, AWESOME!

Tony Hawkes said...

I'm traveling there and back by skateboard, AWESOME!

Brockley Nick said...

I'll be gleaming the cube at half time

Now Then said...

I'll be amidst oliveaters

Now Then said...

I can see that drink swapping business leading to trouble!

LoveFootball said...

Given up on Argentina v Scotland then,Now Then.

Now Then said...

The way I've figured it LF is that if I get to see any or all of The All Blacks v Ireland @ 8.30, Aus v England @ 11:00 or the intriguing S. Africa v France @ 13:00...

I might be sufficiently fortified to watch a whole game of soccer..yep, the hell with Arge Scotland!

Anonymous said...

Ahem, football.

LoveFootball said...

Oh the Irony of it all.

Now Then said...

Comes of being an oppressed sporting minority. I hope the footy comes up to scratch and everyone has a great evening.

Hugh said...

Why not watch it at home and get a Babur curry in? Surely that's what shelling out for a massive telly is all about.

Now Then said...

Its a 'humanity and fellowship' thing Hugh. You wouldn't understand.

Hugh said...

Interesting. Could you elaborate?

LoveFootballandRugby said...

Thanks for reminding me of the Ire AB game NT watching it now.

LoveFootballandRugby. said...

What was he thinking,could be a rather heavy defeat now.

Now Then said...

Mmmm. Playing for pride now. Only 2 games left to salvage some Northern Hemisphere cred...oh and Scotland

LoveFootballandRugby said...

Good second half,its hard enough playing the AB with 15.

WorldCupWilly said...

Its the Talbot doing the special screening,the Wickham has football on most of the time.

Trainspotter said...

Specially big roar if Shaun Wright-Phillips scores please... he grew up in Brockley!

Brockley Nick said...

@World Cup Willy - yes, but the Wickham is laying on extras for today's game, hence its specialness

WorldCupWilly said...

Your right Nick,lets hope the weather stays fine.Come on England.

Now Then said...

Could I strongly reccomend wading about in a dappled river and tugging away at celery like stuff, placing it in a floating half barrel, as an antidote to sporting disappointments...

or maybe even a gentle cooling of the exultance of victory.

You could do this on the Quaggy tomorrow, great outing for kids as well.

Howzat for a sport and nature thread tie up.

Bemused said...

Yeah, so I was at my local last night watching the footie spotted a few of the usual suspects. Classic London social skills deficit on display. Saying hello to someone you have spoken to in past is not going to cause the earth to collapse or worse necessitate a conversation.

LoveFootball said...

What ?

Anonymous said...

A luv interest issued a red card?

Anonymous said...

A luv interest wasn't impressed by the tackle?

Now Then said...

The Talbot was okay as a footy venue, the HDness of the screen downstairs seemed to make up for the small size of it

Not an olive in sight though.

LoveFootball said...

The Wickham was packed,but to the extent it didn't make it any more enjoyable, would have been better with a few less people,but try telling that to the guvnor.

The small screen NT,isn't that because its only a temporary thing for the World Cup.

PS: maybe they ran out of olives before you got there.

Anonymous said...

Was the England goal missed on the HD viewing ?

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

The screens might be HD in the Talbot but I don't think the signal is......yet.

So yes the goal was seen by those in there.

The screen looks fairly permanent judging by the way they have chased out the wall to hide the cables. Doesn't mean they will show much Football however as I am told they don't intend to get Sky.

So Six Nations, World Cup, Oylmpics and Wimbledon.
Have I missed anything?

LoveFootball said...

Maybe the FA Cup.

Anonymous said...

X Factor? Eurovision?

Variety is the spice of life afterall.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Please God, neither of those two options.

mintness said...

Tried to watch a game at the Talbot the other night, but they turned the dinky screen around so the people at the other side of the room could get a better view, meaning that we didn't have a view at all. Gave up and tried the Wickham instead, where the screen was visible but the smell off-putting. Ended up at Wetherspoons, which is a damning indictment in itself - AND the quiz machine broke and swallowed a whole 50p of our hard-earned.

Definitely heading into the big bad city for today's England game - Brockley just ain't cutting it this time round, I'm afraid.

Anonymous said...

what smell?

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Bit of an old thread but for those interested the Talbot is to start a quiz on Tuesday 14th Septembet 2010.

This will be in direct competition with the Wickham Arms and the Ladywell Tavern who both have Tuesday quizzes.

Intersting to see which one if any prevails.

See you there, there or even there........

May the best team win.

TM said...

Should have said might be a Poll topic?

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