A new MP for Greenwich and Deptford (and Brockley)?

853 blog has been sifting through the boundary changes to MPs constituencies predicted by Democratic Audit, to see what the future could have in store for South East London politics as the government attempts to reduce the number of MPs to around 600. One of the most significant changes forecast is the merging of much of Nick Raynsford (Greenwich) and Joan Ruddock's (Deptford) patches, including Brockley and Telegraph Hill wards.

He says:

A new Greenwich and Deptford seat would run from the Telegraph Hill ward in Lewisham borough across to Greenwich borough’s Peninsula ward. Essentially, it would mean the current Lewisham Deptford seat, held by Labour’s Joan Ruddock, expands east to take in Greenwich and Blackheath.

The new boundaries ought to make the seat slightly more marginal than Ruddock's existing stronghold. Will it make political life more interesting? And will an MP with responsibility for Greenwich and the peninsula have much time for Brockley and Deptford? What do you think?

In this model, Ladywell would be lumped together with Lewisham, Lee and other wards up to Grove Park and Downham.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think less representation in the Commons is a bad thing. Hasn't the UK population increased, so why are they looking at reducing our representation?

Headhunter said...

Well at least there will be fewer expenses to pay....

Anonymous said...

No doubt Joan will be writing to electors in Greenwich that she will be their next MP.

Anonymous said...

Reducing the number of MP's is just Tory gerrymandering...

Anonymous said...

Gerrymandering? Not really, but getting rid of Scotland, hmmm......

Anonymous said...

I see Crofton Park's earmarked to be part of a new Dulwich and Forest Hill constituency.

"The rest of Lewisham borough would form a Dulwich and Forest Hill seat, stretching from Dulwich Village to Crofton Park."

patrick1971 said...

How is it gerrymandering to ensure that constituencies have roughly the same number of voters? I thought that was how it was supposed to work.

Anonymous said...

Well it would be naive to think that the Conservatives would have done it if it meant that the opposition would gain more seats. But no, it's not quiet as cynical as the 'homes for votes' thing. I'm sure labour whould have done the same

Anonymous said...

.....and another argument for a PR type system.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

No chance of PR or any change in the voting system for a generation after the last referendum.

The Lib Dems should not have made a deal on the coalition without a proper PR vote.

Most voters could not see any advantage of the system on offer.

Lou Baker said...

@michael

The Lib Dems have always believed in coalition government.

They firmly support PR and PR always results in coalition.

Yet many Lib Dems are whining like spoilt children about being in coalition with the Tories.

If you hate the Tories so much and would only ever be happy in coalition with Labour, just go and join the Labour party.

There is no point in being an independent party if you're not prepared to work with both sides.

I, for one, think the coalition government has done well. The Lib Dems have tempered the Tories excesses - whilst the Tories have still ploughed on with necessary reform. It's working well - and the country will be a better place by the end of the Parliament.

Incidentally, I think the Blair government was generally quite good too - Iraq aside. It's Gordon Brown and Ed Balls who royally screwed our country.

TM said...

Lou

Most of your observations are correct. My point was more that the LD should have made Cameron have a referendum on a propoer PR system and not been fobbed off with AV which clearly could not be sold to the General Public despite the support of two parties.

It seems that in any event FPP can also deliver a coalition

What seems strange to me is that a large amount of Lib Dem voters did not imagine that a coalition - where they where in the minority - would mean a compromise on many of their polices.

Clearly they don't live in the real world.

Lou Baker said...

@tm

I doubt the country would have backed any form of PR at present. The Lib Dems demonstrated their naïveté by pushing for a referendum when they did.

While it may be tough for Lib Dems they should take a look at the bigger picture and realise that they're having a disproportionate influence over government policy - and that, actually, much of that policy is really quite progressive.

Yesterday's announcement on vaccines, international aid targets, green energy commitments, sentencing policy. Some of these policies are really very liberal - despite the leftist BBC trying to skew the debate to portray the government as right wing.

Attempts to reform the NHS to make it patient-centric (and not doctor and nurse-centric) are laudible as are efforts to reform university finance and tackle welfare dependency. Even if you think the government has some of the details wrong it should be given full marks for at least trying to solve these problems.

As for our MP - let's hope it's a wake up call for Ruddock - who really needs replacing.

Tamsin said...

The attempts to reform the NHS are making it more doctor/"any willing provider" centric - patients have the same position as under the former system - at the end of a waiting list or having their care held over until the next financial year because the referring doctor has run out of budget. Look at the link to the Health Emergency video on the Transpontine forum (and the nice images of Deptford High Street in the process).

Tamsin said...

PS In the Care Homes Crisis thread on Wednesday 1st June, not the NHS Protest one.

Life lessons for Lou said...

the 'leftist' BBC? Lou, you really have a skewed view of the world. The BBC has been labeled right or left depending on the incumbent governments degree of discomfort. Any responsible media is supposed to hold the powerful to account, it will obviously concentrate on the party IN government. A large proportion do not support their policies, the BBC puts the questions that they would liked asked, they have not exactly been the Labour Party propaganda wing the last few months. Do you remember the level of flack they gleefully threw at GB/TB?

You really do betray your lack of knowledge when you bash out one of your diatribes.

Beink slightly to the left of your extreme Libertarianism (look it up) does not make you a 'leftist'.

smart arse said...

I've looked up 'beink' and drawn a blank.

Doh! said...

I'm amazed you were able to chew your way out of your cage and slither over to a PC in your strait jacket. How did you type that? Did you use your tail?

Leave the politics for the grownups. Lou is confused but at least he's having a go.

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