Brock and Chips

Gourmet Inn, the Chinese restaurant on Brockley Road near the Brockley Mess, is currently being refitted. BC Twitterers Laura and Jennifer have now been able to establish what is happening to it.

The takeaway will re-open shortly as a fish and chip restaurant, with some outdoor seating. The builders confidently informed Jennifer that the work will be 'spot on', which would make a nice change from some of the refits we've seen on Brockley Road in the last year.

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oooh, that sounds promising. Hopefully it will also mean not having to wait in a 20 minute queue for a bag of small chips a la Fishy Business.

Brockley Nick said...

How does Fishy Business compare to Tony's Plaice in Brockley Cross? I've only had the former once, I normally go to Tony's, which is perfectly decent.

Tim said...

Yes, hopefully you can get your massive bag of deep fried carbs swiftly.

Anonymous said...

Too right Mmmmmmm

mg said...

The Crofton Park chipper is good, and the portions are massive. The only downside is they don't do deep fried mushrooms like the one in Honor Oak. Mmmmm.

D said...

And hopefully they open on sundays, unlike most of the others in the area as thats when my fish and chip craving tends to kick in.

Charlie said...

Fishy Business is great. Big portions and well done. You can order by phone too, if you don't like the wait...

Anonymous said...

I have minimised my intake of fast food recently, but do recall being ravenously hungry one Sunday evening, and very disappointed to find nowhere was open. Quite a lot of places are shut on a Monday too.

Anonymous said...

Didnt fish shops always close Mondays.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, what is that about.

A lot close Sundays too :-(

Fishy Business is great, everyone loves that place but the mungs.

Monkeyboy said...

Tony's plaice does the job although I've had fish there a bit dried up from being in the warming thing a bit too long. Weirdly I rather like It like that. Gulens wins the shish kebab contest.

Always spotless though, for those sensitive souls.

Brockley Dogging Society - Diciplinary Council said...

We've had an extrodinary general meeting to discuss Brockley Central. Although we applaud Nicks work we are dismayed at the prevalence of cretinous "mung" comments. The category clearly only exists in the pea like brains of those who shout at wheely bins or get angry because Marathon bars were renamed Snickers by "Eurocrats" or some other mythical bastard.

Forthwith the BDS will terminate membership of any member who uses the term "mung bean" or its derivatives for anything other than identifying a particular legume.

To stay on topic, the BDS formally endorsed Tony's due to his generous and perfectly served saveloy.

Tressilliana said...

I always understood that there was a law forbidding fish and chip shops from opening on a Sunday. I think it was one of those laws that was drawn up with very specific wording that then gets overtaken by events - fish and chip shops were the only fast food outlets in the UK for a long time and then all of a sudden there were takeaways of many other kinds as well which weren't forbidden to open on Sundays. So the law seems to have changed - but it seems many chippies still shut on Sundays anyway.

I love Fishy Business. The portions are massive. One small portion of chips is enough for a family of four for a week (well, not far off).

Brockley Ben said...

Suspect closing Mondays (and Sundays) is a throwback to the days when all fish was fresh. Fishermen never used to go out on a Sunday (probably still don't) so it was hard to get fresh fish on Mondays.

I think there's a lot more (perfectly good) frozen fish these days so it's not such an issue, but I still think twice about ordering fish in a restaurant on a Monday, especially having read Anthony Bourdain.

Anonymous said...

The Frying Squad on Hither Green Lane is the same,enough chips for many chip butties.And its always packed in the evening

THNick said...

I had heard the same "pub fact" as Tressilliana - F&C shops were banned from opening on Sundays to stop Englishmen eating their good honest Sunday lunches.
Ben - the adage that you shouldnt order the fish on a Monday, since it was landed on Friday, is fine but doesnt really matter since most shops use frozen fish anyway, and most "cod" is landed at sea and frozen on the boat.

Anonymous said...

Coming from a part of the country blessed by fish and chip shops on many street corners, the sanguine celebration of the various take-aways in this area seems puzzling.

I have yet to have a really good fish and chip experience locally. The fish are usually tiddlers and the fish is far from fresh. The chips are usually tasteless - maybe it is the cheap oil they use.

Generally the standard is pretty low. London is not a fish and chip sort of place.

So...given the paucity of competition, I predict a new chippie will be a success.

Anonymous said...

Not if they use the same ingredients.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

The only "local" chippie - and it is not that local - that I would recommend is this one;

http://www.mcdermottsfishandchips.co.uk/index-2.html

I used to drive past on my daily commute some years ago and is really good.

Fishy Business is about the best I have tried in Brockley but can not be classed as top notch compared to say those in Whitby or even Hastings, IMHO

Anonymous said...

I tried the Sea Cow in Clapham and it was rubbish... yet more conspicuous consumption gossip from the mungs

Node said...

Fishy Business does top notch fish and chips, and compares quite favourably food wise with more fashionable places like Sea Cow in E. Dulwich and Sea Fish in Islington.

All the food is cooked to order and while this does make everything incredibly fresh it does lead to ridiculous queues at busy times. There was almost a punch up last week over some guy who had been waiting 45 minutes, and someone who did a phone order. So maybe this new place will take some of the pressure off them, or force them to sort out their system.

I find Tony's has quite pale soggy chips whereas I prefer mine well done, and ironically his batter is way too crispy, and often thicker than a fur coat.

Brockley Dogging Society - Disciplinary committee said...

That's it Anon, you've been warned. Please do not embarrass yourself by attending the Saturday Dogathon, your membership has been recinded and your name put on the dog-watch register. If you do try to bully your way in our security will prosecute with extreme prejudice.

Anonymous said...

Surprised no one has mentioned the price of fish these days !

Anonymous said...

Or the price of anything.

Ramble said...

Fishy Business is great. The portion sizes are big and their curry sauce is amazing. And I think they are open Sundays? Never tried Tony's.

I look forward to the new place opening though.

Anonymous said...

I had fish and chips at the Brockley Jack the other day and was very pleasantly surprised by the quality and presentation. The fish are big and hearty.

The staff seem to be quite co-ordinated and efficient as well - a good friendly team.

Like many relaunched pubs they see food as an important priority for attracting custom - bring it on!

But it is not the sort of carbohydrate way station for gentlemen who seem to have neglected to partake of dinner after and evening of well beveraged peregrination.

For that, a chippy will add to the array of takeaway options for which Brockley is noted.

Anonymous said...

I know it's a way off, but amazed nobody's mentioned the golden choppy deptford/Greenwich yet. Nom nom nom.

Anonymous said...

Where is Fishy Business?
Is that the one in Harefield Rd

There's a popular fish and chip shop in the parade in ladywell.

Anonymous said...

That's the one but the Ladywell one isn't very nice.

Doghouse said...

The grub at Fishy Business is ace... but the service sucks.

A while ago I had to wait 1hr20mins for two cod and chips, which must be some kind of record. When I complained – reasonably, I thought – that you really shouldn't have to wait so long for F and C I was told it was because they were busy because it was a Friday. All F and C are busy on a Friday.

I took a quick straw-poll of my fellow queuers: how long is too long to wait for F and C? The received wisdom appeared to be 30mins, so we'd bettered (battered?) that by nearly threefold.

And here's some ammo for all the mung-bashers: one queuer said it was worth waiting as the batter was like tempura.

I've started going elsewhere for that F&C fix. The food isn't as good, but you takes your chances.

And at least there's one less in the FB queue on a Friday night for all those dedicated, and hungry, souls.

Anonymous said...

Sounds as if a new fish and chip emporium will bless the area with some much needed competition.

It is not rocket science to organise a fry up in a chippy on a Friday.

Anonymous said...

So fish and chips good, but chicken and chips bad.

Anonymous said...

Yep, sounds like Mungs Logic to me.

Headhunter said...

I don't think it's as simple as fish and chips = good, chicken and chips = bad, it's just that there are so many chicken and chip places in and around Brockley, I think most people would prefer a bit of variety. Same goes with betting shops, it's not a problem to have a couple of betting shops in an area but when a large chunk of retail premises are either fried chicken outlets or betting shops, things get a bit dull...

As for takeaways on a Friday night, I don't bother anymore. Had to wait about 2 or so hours for a takeaway to be delivered from Babur a couple of months ago and when it arrived it was cold and they had left the naan bread out. Instead of sending someone out to deliver the missing naan, they just said they would give us it on our next order, which is a pain because I only get takeaway about once every 6 months anyway and by then they'll have forgotten no doubt.... Not too impressed with that from Babur

D said...

I swear by Wilson Fish & Chips on Brockley Rise. The batter can be a bit soggy sometimes but the portions are ridiculously big, even when you ask for a small one.

Anonymous said...

Anon 15:31 - Fish and chips doesn't tend to result in the streets being littered with red and yellow greasy cardboard boxes, or to the bone-scattered floor of the bus looking like feeding time at the zoo (not to mention the scary gangs hanging around ordering their Junior Spesh).

So yes, in this case I think fish and chips is better than chicken and chips.

Little Brockley said...

@HH You really should 'ave rung em up and 'ad a poppadom!

Tyrwhitt M said...

LOL LOL HA HA HAH HAH

Oh my aching sides.....

drakefell debaser said...

That joke was second to naan.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it is harder than you think to run a fry up on a friday. Of course if you overload the fryer and hot hold everything you can be out the door in 5 min but if you want to please your loyalists you best stick to standards.
That said Fishy biz is off the scale, I secretly think that frying range is broken and there is a couple of guys inside doing the lot in oil filled woks.
I only eat FC there, I know what I'm in for, have a pint in the Orchard while I wait and never go in peak.

The state of Londons fish and chips shops amazed me, coming from Yorkshire where you still can find fish fried in dripping, ah well, they can't do eel and mash.

Headhunter said...

Fish fried in dripping? Bloody hell... Instant heart attack

Little Brockley said...

Dripping! EUrrrgh. I thought ground nut oil was the thing for deep frying or a meringue?

Anonymous said...

Beef dripping is the best stuff to use. And agreed, London takeaways are of a very poor standard.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, meringue is just egg white and sugar. No oil, groundnut or not!

Anonymous said...

Don't you mean, free range organic egg white and farm-assured fairtrade soil alliance sugar?

Limerick said...

To summarise:

To fill up a family of four,
Try a medium cod, nothing more.
Though its not fried in dripping,
The wait finds you sipping
A pint from the orchard next door.

Did I leave anything out?

Brockley Dogging Society - Nutritional and Healthy Heart Group said...

No HH, consumption of saturated fats does NOT lead to an instant heat disease. That's been known for a while. Being fat does, but you can be fat from eating too much of any type of fat, or indeed any type of food. It's obesity, not how you become obese that is the factor.

We run a nutritional workshop at 2:00am where Colin shows exactly what he gobbles to maintain his svelte form.


http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract

"Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD [coronary heart disease] or CVD [cardiovascular disease]. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat."

Aaargh said...

"Sounds as if a new fish and chip emporium will bless the area with some much needed competition."

They've been selling fish and chips in the Gourmet Inn at least since I moved here in the mid nineties, and not one person so far seems to be aware of that!! (They'll need to up their game though if they're just going to concentrate on piscatorial and spudular delicacies, as they'd gone downhill a lot in the last couple of years mind)

Honestly, you'd think Fishy bl**dy Business was the only chippy in town judging by the amount of comments it draws on this blog. What is it with the fuss made over that place? It's an OK chippy, that's all! Went past it this evening (to give it the benefit of the doubt) thinking I'll pick up a cod supper, but saw the queue and knowing how slow it can move continued down to Sainsbury's to pick up some fillets to poach myself. Probably quicker.

Aaargh- sole. said...

If you can stave off a fish and chips urge with the thought of poached whatever then your opinions are not relevent. That queue is there for a reason please don't join it just verify what is written here.

Devil's in the details, not sainbury's.

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