Ladywell travellers site abandoned

The Ladywell Village Improvement Group reports:

In the last half hour Sir Steve Bullock, Mayor of Lewisham, has accepted officer recommendations and decided not to pursue plans for a traveller site at Church Grove, Ladywell. This will come as a huge relief to Church Grove residents and to many other local people who felt this was simply not a suitable site.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not in their back yards, then?

hardlianotion said...

I'd like to think that a fresh new anonymous has submitted this fresh new contribution.

anon-nee-noo-noo-na-na said...

I wonder if all these anons are Lewisham Council's PR team!

Anonymous said...

Sorry not to be on thread but please could we have a disucssion on the housing market? East Dulwich is going bananas again and while everyone laughs at them, there will be people now choosing to look outside that area for better value. I see se4 and nunhead doing well out of it in particular. Telegraph hill is getting ridiculously dear in my view.

NAT said...

22:36 If I tried to make up a more dickheady post on the issue of traveller housing and why it wasn't appropriate to the area it was suggested for and why, no, it wasn't about property values or nimbyism or all that stuff that the property concerned might be accused of; I really couldn't have bested that.

This is a wind up isn't it?

Anonymous said...

a triumph of prejudice over reality - it disturbs me that I have to live near the residents of Church Grove and their barely concealed hatred of people whose views/lifestyle they don't agree with yet mask that under the 'width restrictions' argument.

a shameful day

Extra wide load said...

But have you actually seen the width of church grove? Serious question.

Anonymous said...

yes, restrict the parking, problem solved

what if there were plans to build a drumming school for the criminally insane at the end of church grove - what would they complain about then?

Its not about the width of the road, its about the people who would be using the road

serious question

oldpopinanoak said...

I used to live near a gypsy site. Pain in the arse with no respect for other people's property.

They don't work and their kids run riot, the people who suffer are their neighbours who can't up and move wherever they like.

extra wide load said...

anon@10.11 so are you saying that no-one in Church grove should be allowed to park in their own street? They can't park on Ladywell road so where should they park?

I'm not saying that it's not a good excuse to petition against a travellers site that residents didn't want anyway, but no-one can deny that the road is so narrow that all the residents cars would have to be moved every time a caravan wanted to go in or out.

If the width of the road wasn't a genuine issue then the council wouldn't have needed to abandon plans.

Anonymous said...

I say shift the site to Brockley. See how the Guardianistas over there react.

People of Ladywell rejoice

Anonymous said...

Here's a win-win suggestion. Let the travellers hitch up outside Nat's house.

He/she would soon be making "dickheady posts" then, I'm sure.

Well done Mayor Bullock for seeing sense.

NAT said...

So 13;58 Let us try to follow your line of thought here.

Some caravans pitch outside my door and..forgive me if I'm not getting this right,...it causes me to post about 'East Dulwich going bananas', and 'Telegraph Hill getting ridicoulously dear'.

Is that what you had in mind?

I wonder if all this added Anon activity is related to it being half term?

Anonymous said...

How dare you - are you suggesting that I'm a teacher or something......

So you wouldn't mind if Bullock decided to open a travellers site in your road?

Be honest now

NAT said...

'traveller housing and why it wasn't appropriate for the area it was suggested for' eh?

You are one deeply confused Anon.

Go back and read my post again.

Anonymous said...

I can't be bothered, transformers To be honest, your original post didn't make too much sense.

And your last one was pretty unfathomable.

Straight question though - would you have a travellers site in your road?

Brockley Nick said...

Anon - NAT wasn't talking about the traveller site, he was talking about the inappropriateness of the comment at 2236, wanting to start a conversation about house prices on a thread about a community not getting a place to live.

Anonymous said...

"a triumph of prejudice over reality"

Welcome to Brockley - home of self-proclaimed humanitarians with their ethical eggs and fairtrade plastic bags who love all humankind - as long as you're exactly like them.

NAT said...

Okay Anon: In words of one syllable:

What I wrote was that the site was not good.Some people were saying that this was the fault of the people who lived there because they were more worried about their houses than they were about people.

But really the access road was too narrow, and then the mayor saw this too.

And then someone wanted to turn this into a conversation about the price of houses even though that was not what the issue was about.

Can the Anons get any thicker? said...

Anonymous 14:34 - yeah cos you'd never stereotype or look down on anybody would you?

Oh, wait...

Danja said...

In words of one syllable

He might have half a chance of understanding it if you had followed through on that.

NAT said...

Harder than you'd think

Anonymous said...

Super news.

Now, if only Lewisham council could approve the opening of more fast food outlets in the area.

And bookies.

And fix the wonky "E" on El's kitchen....

You reading this, Bullock?

The Craggy Golem said...

But who will shoe my horses?

3.05 said...

"a triumph of prejudice over reality - it disturbs me that I have to live near the residents of Church Grove and their barely concealed hatred of people whose views/lifestyle they don't agree with yet mask that under the 'width restrictions' argument."


The worst form of prejudice, I think, is in claiming you know what other people really think and feel (when you don't) then broadcasting it to the world as fact, especially when you assume hatred is at the core. I've been at the centre of this long and stressful case but have never at any time felt any hatred toward anyone. The closest I came was when Damien Egan accused us on national television of being racist - making a similar assumption to you; well, worse in his case because he knew it wasn't true.

What has perhaps most exasperated us is that while we've always recognised the legitimacy of the travellers' community, the same recognition has rarely been extended to us as a community. You talk about the 'Guardianistas' of Brockley and sneer at their (perceived) over-liberalism laced with hypocrisy. I wouldn't make such an assumption but can't help noting there appears to be a reverse over-liberalism in some cases, where the local community has to suffer far more criticism, attack and flat-out prejudice than, in this case, the travellers' community.

NAT said...

Eloquently put.

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