Brockely Cross Crisis Point


Here is a photo of Brockley Cross, taken today. With the exception of the white van, all of these cars are 'parked'. Some are parked by the kerb or in the little bay which provides legitimate parking for two rows of cars. The rest are squeezed on to pavements or double-parked in the middle of the road. This is an entirely typical day. It's as though Operation Stack has been orgainsed in SE4.

In total, this arrangement creates five lanes of parked cars plus two lanes of moving cars - a seven lane nightmare that endangers lives and dooms this part of Brockley to crapiness and exhaust until the Council sorts it out.

And the problem is getting worse. TickleMe takeaway is proving to be a success, which is great, except that its customers are the ones double-parking on its side of the street. Nats's Bake and Juices' customers double park on the other side. Meanwhile, a self-hire van rental company has moved in to an office in Brockley Cross and the managers allow their vehicles to be parked on the pavement - we have seen people with pushchairs forced to steer in to the road just to get down the street.

The tale of Brockley Cross' aborted redevelopment is a long and depressing one and the only long-term solution to the traffic problems at this junction is to properly address the awful layout. We must sustain the pressure on the Council to do what they have been promising for years and fix Brockley Cross, for good.

However, until that happens there is the immediate question of what to do about the daily parking abuses that blight Brockley Cross. It should not require new legislation, restrictions, studies, consultations, funding or any of the other usual reasons why things don't happen. Fixing the problem could even be revenue-generating.

What we need is traffic wardens. Ruthless, efficient traffic wardens, incentivised to punish transgressors. Traffic wardens who circle Brockley Cross like jackals. A few weeks of this treatment should sort the problem out. It could be done tomorrow, if the will was there.

27 comments:

M said...

It really is a mess around there.
Perhaps if we all write to complain something might be done?
Or perhaps not.
Worth a go anyway.
Email: traffic@lewisham.gov.uk

Anonymous said...

Strange how those 2 shops have been singled out as providing the custom of the transgressors. What about those who park on the yellows outside the mung bean shops?

Brockley Nick said...

Don't try and be divisive, this is a problem that effects the whole community.

What "mung bean" shops? There are none.These are the two main takeaways on the cross and it is these which the people double-parking tend to use: it's fact, not prejudice.

Also, it's not a question of blaming the businesses themselves, just some of the customers.

Tressillian James said...

There's usually a traffic warden outside of the row of parkled cars at Costcutter - often seen him ticketing there and around the cornin in Harefield. I wonder if Brockely Cross is too confusing - and not as clear cut for ticketing purposes?

Tressilliana said...

I don't know why the council bothered painting double yellow lines on so many corners round Brockley/Crofton Park a few years ago. There are hardly every any traffic wardens in the area to enforce them. The area round Barclay's in Crofton Park is particularly bad. Not easy to cross safely there when the traffic is heavy as the sightlines are completely blocked by the parked cars.

Brockley Nick said...

TJ - there are yellow lines and parking bays clearly marked and double parking is a clear-cut offence. People often sit in their cars while double parked, which is a bit of a problem for wardens, but there are plenty of empty cars on pavements for a warden to get its teeth into.
I have never seen a warden in Brockley Cross.

Hugh said...

The Brockley Road is beyond redemption. Quick, make your way into the safety and calm of the conservation area.

Anonymous said...

It seems that most of these wardens are targeting nearby Manor Avenue.

A number of cars that had two wheels parked on the shoulders (in order to allow the good flow of traffic) were ticketed - this Sunday! They also ticket double-parked vehicles, so it does happen. (This also demonstrates that there is a parking need in the Avenue, contrary to what has been suggested here.)

I suggest that you just phone the Lewisham Parking Shop and ask them to ticket. That's what the lot who did the Avenue claimed. But I very much doubt if many here would raise the effort to complain anywhere beyond cyberspace.

Good luck.

welcome to 2009 said...

The manor ave "lobby" displaying their customary charm.

No one said that parking wasn't tight on manor ave, same as almost everywhere in brockers

Anonymous said...

There is also an issue with minicabs parking just off Brockley Cross on the one-way bit of Upper Brockley Road. The parking is fine and legal: it's the use of the wall as a public loo that's not. We've mentioned to Speedicabs management, though cannot be certain it's the firm's drivers, but the problem persists. It would be great if others who witness this also complain.

Cllr Dean Walton said...

I'll ask Lewisham's officers what can/should be done about enforcing the parking regulations in this area. Additionally it makes it more dangerous for pedestrians - me included - getting to and from the station.

Headhunter said...

"Manor Avenue....A number of cars that had two wheels parked on the shoulders (in order to allow the good flow of traffic) were ticketed - this Sunday! They also ticket double-parked vehicles, so it does happen. (This also demonstrates that there is a parking need in the Avenue, contrary to what has been suggested here.)"

Good. Manor Avenue does not want "good flow of traffic". No traffic is preferable, unless you actually live there. The wider shoulders were designed to calm traffic and prevent Manor Ave being used as a rat run to cut through to Wickham Rd and on to Lewisham Way. The shoulders were not designed for cars to be parked upon to allow yet more cars to flow through!

Personally I like it when people double park on Manor Ave, it blocks the road and makes it less easy for traffic to bomb along from Geoffrey to Ashby Rd then swing a left or right as they hurry to Lewisham Way.

In the mornings Manor Ave becomes a rat run of cars trying to cut out the roundabout at the corner of Wickham and Geoffrey Rds which is one reason I was so against the nursery which would've added yet more traffic.

Anonymous said...

"Good. Manor Avenue does not want "good flow of traffic". No traffic is preferable, unless you actually live there. "

What a load of bollocks as usual from the mung bean camp.

What if, for example, you're driving to somewhere on the other end of the road and beyond?

Heaven forfend that roads should be used for driving on, and in my experience similar schemes where the residents have parked a little on the sides to help larger vehicles get through, and aid the use of 2 lanes instead of one, have been welcomed by all concerned. Except Headhunter, of course.

Headhunter said...

Why shuold every road through Brockley be dominatd by traffic and parking, anon? Why should residents of a quiet road have to endure you and others revving up and down Manor Ave, when Wickham Rd and Malpas Rd have been designated as main thoroughfares for traffic.

Manor Avenue has traffic calming including road humps and "shoulders" for a reason, to stop/discourage pointless cut through journeys like, no doubt, yours so that you might just save a precious tenth of a second off your journey!

Anon said...

Let Wickham take all the traffic, because that's fair and the people that live there, don't matter.

Anonymous said...

I think the subject of manor ave and its traffic issues has been debated to absolute death on here.

Let’s not resurrect it please.

Tressillian James said...

It's a fair point that those who live on Wickham and Malpas are very aware of the traffic - one of the considerations when renting or buying a place is how busy the road is. It is not a case of not caring about the residents there. HH has a valid point.

Headhunter said...

Well, Wickham Rd and Malpas have been designated as traffic routes. They are both wider roads with road markings and islands etc to guide larger quantities of traffic.

Manor Ave on the other hand has traffic calming/reducing measures in place. The shoulders, the road humps etc and the road surface itself is in poor condition. The parking situation makes it even more awkward for large quantities of traffic to get through.

Wickham and Malpas have both been relatively busy roads/bus routes for many years now, anyone living or buying on either of these roads will either be used to it or be aware of it before they move in.

All I'm saying is, that there is no point directing traffic along a road which is clearly not designed for it, and encouraging cars to park up on the pavement and shoulders is not a good idea. It's about time that every road in Brockley was not dominated by the car as desired by the fried chicken brigade.

Hugh said...

This probably isn't the thread for it but I can't see what is. This site does a great job in trying to faciliate change in the area, but it seems to me that the main agent for change would be for local people to know each other. This requires places where people meet.

Where do people meet in Brockley? It's no good saying the Wickham Arms. People don't go to pubs to meet new people.

Headhunter said...

Hugh - You should turn up to the BC drinks - I've met a load of people who comment here at those. And what about coming out on a Brockley Bike-athon? We never quite seem to manage that...

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Contrary to Hugh's assertion, I have met everyone I know in Brockley (with the exception of my immediate neighbours) in one pub or another.

This includes all the bloggers who I have met face to face; in either Jam Circus, The Talbot or The Ladywell Tavern.

The Wickham Quiz night is a good one for meeting people.

Ed said...

Every time I have a visitor to Brockley they always are amazed at the chaos and danger at Brockley Cross. I can't believe it is even legal for the council to allow such poor provision for pedestrians. I think that the number one priority for the area has to be to get this junction right. I also think we need to sort parking for those who live in the area and begrudgingly support a CPZ; at least it would deter casual non-local parking.

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't people go to pubs to meet new people?

Anonymous said...

Don't get me started on the parking and lack of enforcemenet. The juction of Geoffrey Road/ UBR is another nightmare- there are cars parked on the double yellow lines blocking the cycle path all the time and I have seen a traffic warden on his motor bike have a look at them and then ride off! The problem is exacerbated by over spill from the garage with people mending their cars on the road-often parked onthe double yellows. This is now an offense if it could cause annoyance- but noone ever comes to enforce this. Parking enforcement are supposed to police this but it seems that you have to report it, which seems to me putting too much on members of the public. there are also taxis parked all around obviously waiting for fares which only adds to the mess. A couple of years ago we were asked about residents parking and said no in Geoffrey Road- if asked today I would say yes even if it costs £70 but would even that be enforced -probably no.

Anonymous said...

Those hire vans are a new addition. I'm all for enterprise but surely such a business would be better located in an industrial unit with allocated parking rather than in an office unit in BX with no parking at all . You have no right to park on the road and parking onthe pavement could be an obstruction but it seems that the police aren't bothered and neither is the council but if dear Mr Walton is on the case better go and move the car off the double yellows just in case.

Anonymous said...

Any wardens giving out tickets at Brockley Cross would probably need a police escort.

Headhunter said...

No more than any other area like New Cross, Deptford or central Lewisham....

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