Brockley Assembly helps Coulgate Street pedestrianisation plan take a step forward [UPDATED]

Last week's Brockley Assembly voted to investigate the feasibility of the part-pedestrianisation of Coulgate Street.

Part (rather than full)-pedestrianisation is the preferred option because of the mix of retail and residential uses on the street and because of the desire to provide reasonable car access to the station itself. However, there was broad support for creating a new layout and surface, which would give much greater priority to pedestrians, creating a more pleasant space adjacent to the new-look Brockley Common, acting as a green gateway in to Brockley.

Part-pedestrianisation could involve restricting cars only at certain points on the road or at certain times of day. Ideally, the scheme would involve creating a shared surface, relandscaped with new paving, layout and planting.

We've asked Cllr Walton for the form of words used on the motion, but Assembly-level support means that the Council will conduct a feasibility study, which is a vital step in its implementation.

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UPDATE: Amanda, a BC regular who attended the meeting adds her report:

I think the assembly process is maturing and is coming into it's own. It was very good turn out, at least 50 people from across the ward, good given that there were two very attractive events competing for locals attention from the max that evening.

The format was straightforward; there was series of ideas that sought money from the Mayors fund - 50k. They ideas were briefly presented by locals or outlined by councillors Darren Johnson. People sat at the tables the raised hands and asked questions about the feasibility and practicality of the ideas they were answered and then there was vote. People raised hands whether they for, against or further investigation of the ideas.

The ideas:

Clay awareness project an artist project on clay linked into 2012.

Deep street Cleaning - select an area that requires the attention of the council cleaning team.

Community Allotment - choose where to locate

Pavement replacement- intially this seemed a bit boring, but the idea was to incorporate themed design in certain pavements that could be part of a treasure/tourist trail hunt. It's happened successfully in northern towns.

The talk went onto the state of pavements being a responsiblity that the council/highways should be taking care of anyway, so seperate from this fund application. A chap on my table raised the issue of having to walk round the local streets with his back doubled to avoid the low hanging trees and the bumpy tarmac being a trip hazard because of bulging roots. He cited Manor Avenue between Ashby and another road as being particularly bad for this.

Also there was an idea a Colour theme day in Luxmore Gardens, for the people that live around there. Intitally the proposer described it as "The Big Orange day" and most of the questioned were about: Why orange, the colour has political and commerical implications that some thought were a deal maker. The were general support for the idea but with further investigation centered choosing another colour.

Most of the ideas were supported or there was a request for further investigation. Loads more was said such as the pedestrianisation of coulgate proposal, but someone else might want to summarise that.

16 comments:

Richard said...

I guess cars need a safe place to stop and drop off, hence part-pedestrianisation, but a shared surface caused problems somewhere recently with blind pedestrians complaining they were unsafe as they could not feel where paving ended and the road began. Would this be a problem?

Brockley Nick said...

Well there's tactile paving which helps blind people - I guess there are workable solutions, but you're right, this would need to be factored in.

Richard said...

Seems the problem was tactile paving wasn't used because it would have broken up the shared space! Good discussion on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbouch/F3611783?thread=6570482 I doubt Coulgate street would be much of a problem - there's hardly a stretch for cars to pick up speed and surely tactile paving should be used at points

Richard said...

oops, link

Amanda said...

I think the assembly process is maturing and is coming into it's own. It was very good turn out, at least 50 people from across the ward, good given that there were two very attractive events competing for locals attention from the max that evening.
The format was straightforward; there was series of ideas that sought money from the Mayors fund - 50k. They ideas were briefly presented by locals or outlined by councillors Darren Johnson. People sat at the tables the raised hands and asked questions about the feasibility and practicality of the ideas they were answered and then there was vote. People raised hands whether they for, against or further investigation of the ideas.

The ideas
Clay awareness project an artist project on clay linked into 2012.

Deep street Cleaning - select an area that requires the attention of the council cleaning team.

Community Allotment - choose where to locate

Pavement replacement- intially this seemed a bit boring, but the idea was to incorporate themed design in certain pavements that could be part of a treasure/tourist trail hunt. It's happened successfully in northern towns.

The talk went onto the state of pavements being a responsiblity that the council/highways should be taking care of anyway, so seperate from this fund application. A chap on my table raised the issue of having to walk round the local streets with his back doubled to avoid the low hanging trees and the bumpy tarmac being a trip hazard because of bulging roots. He cited Manor Avenue between Ashby and another road as being particularly bad for this.

Also there was an idea a Colour theme day in Luxmore Gardens, for the people that live around there. Intitally the proposer described it as "The Big Orange day" and most of the questioned were about: Why orange, the colour has political and commerical implications that some thought were a deal maker. The were general support for the idea but with further investigation centered choosing another colour.

Most of the ideas were supported or there was a request for further investigation. Loads more was said such as the pedestrianisation of coulgate proposal, but someone else might want to summarise that.

Brockley Kate said...

No parking other than for residents would be a big step forward (stopping would need to be permitted for businesses I guess).

Brockley Nick said...

Thanks for that information Amanda, much appreciated - I'm going to add to the main article.

Richard said...

There are only a few residents on Coulgate street anyway surely? The little houses next to Broca are the only ones I can think of.

Amanda said...

You're welcome Brockley Nick

Anonymous said...

Back to tactile paving (which is frequently done so badly, with cheap red and yellow paving and makes our understated street scenes look like a bit of a dogs dinner)..apparently the colours help partially sighted people know if it is a lighted crossing or not! But in conservation areas we are permitted better street design and can use paving colours that match the street scene and possibly offer greater contrast for partially sighted people. Where was I going with this rant? Shared surfaces shouldn't need tactile paving, because idea is you have traffic so slow that they drive properly, looking out for pedestrians. It is used in residential areas in Netherlands and Germany for years. Check http://www.livablestreets.com/streetswiki/woonerf

So a well designed sophisticated street can be safe and without tactile paving. Hooray

Crofton Park Ranger said...

Agree with Anon above, lets avoid as much bright lines and nobbly bits as possible. This has the effect of slowing cars down naturally. I'm a building surveyor and my colleague writes the RICS DDA/Access guidance books. Happy to get involved if required.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know when the work at the station/Brockley 'Common' is meant to be finished?

The Cat Man said...

erm.. what came first, the chicken or the egg?

One of my cats decided to wee on my bed last night with me asleep underneath her, does anyone know why this would happen? is it lurve?

Headhunter said...

It's not lurve when an animal cocks it's leg on you....

The Cat Man said...

female cats do not cock their legs, they squat

F9 said...

Did she get you in the face?

That's usually a sign she is up for it.

If she peed on your body then she was just dreaming of sailing a boat somewhere

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