Street Trees

Following the public consultation over last year’s Brockley localities fund, it was decided that a good proportion of the £10,000 available should be spent on trees.

Since then, the Council has been working to identify appropriate sites in the area and have already allocated some of the trees (though at present, Brockley Central is not sure which spots have already been targeted).

However, five trees remain unallocated and Cllr Darren Johnson has asked us to publish this message from him, to get your thoughts about where the trees should be planted. He'll be checking the site for your comments.

The sites obviously all need to be in the Brockley ward and should benefit as many people as possible.

We’ll also be asking for details of the “metal railings” that will accompany the trees, as the design will play an important role in determining the success of this exercise:

Is your street grey and dull rather than green and leafy as Brockley streets should be? Is there gap outside your house where a tree used to proudly stand but has long since been removed? If so, Brockley councillors still have some money left to allocate for tree planting in Brockley Ward as part of this year's Ward "Locality Fund". If you have any suggestions as to where you would like to see more street trees planted then let us know via this blog. We have funding for five decent-sized new street trees with protective metal railings to help them get established.

Cllr. Darren Johnson Brockley Ward

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

West side, corner of st asaph and mantle road.

Headhunter said...

Please could we have a tree to replace the one that the council chopped down and then replaced with a patch of tarmac along Manor Avenue that I mentioned a few months back? The rest of the street is leafy and tree lined except this 1 patch of black tarmac... It's on the odd numbers side of the street and roughly equidistant between Ashby and Geoffrey Roads, I suppose it must be outside number 60 or 70 something odd Manor Avenue.

Kate said...

Have any been allocated for Brockley Rd, near Brockley Cross and the Barge? I thought that was the area that was most discussed as needing them when this topic came up before.

Anonymous said...

That's true. Out of interest- how many trees has this money bought?

Anonymous said...

Howson road please!

Anonymous said...

At the junction of Brockley Grove with Brockley Road (between the two estate agents offices), is a neatly dug out square in the pavement where there must once have been a tree. A replacement would look good there.

deekrs said...

likewise, corner of Brockley cross/ Geoffrey road, outside the new salon and theoretical bagel store, there's an area of very shabby-looking pavement that must have once hosted a tree. It'd be wonderful to have one there.

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

corner of st asaph road, and mantle road sounds an ideal spot. With all the new developments springing up, we need to put something green in the area.

Failing that, one of the roads near the main brockley road. how about the residential streets leading off the road from the station to harefield? Need to make the area nice so people are attracted to live in brockley.

The fact we have railings suggest putting them somewhere where there is a high density of footflow, i think this basically narrows it down to the station area.

Tom said...

I reckon the trees should be on a main street, and Brockley Road clearly needs the most improvement. Anywhere along there would get my vote.

Marisa said...

BRAXFIELD ROAD PLEASE.
It looks so barren on Braxfield Road without any trees. I've tried to get the council to plant some trees here but it's a catch 22, they won't tell me how much it's going to cost until I get neighbours to agree but neighbours won't agree until they know how much it's going to cost!
Please, please, please.

Kung Fu Hustle said...

On Tressillian Road between Avon Road and Darling Road - the stumps of old trees were removed and tarmaced over...so replacements would be great - btw is there anyway of knowing where the allocated trees are going?

Headhunter said...

Why has the council stopped replacing trees on previously tree lined streets? Is this now a consistent policy to tarmac over whenever trees are removed? It seems strange that they are doing this now, yet this £10k has been allocated to planting trees in Brockley. Seems very inconsistent.

Brockley Nick said...

The official council policy on trees is to preserve them wherever possible or, when trees need to be cut down, to try and replace them with smaller trees, like cherry trees.

Whether or not that happens in practice, I will leave for others to comment. A large tree on the boundary of a property opposite me was recently felled (without consultation) and has not been replaced.

As for inconsistency - they are doing what we asked them to do with the localities fund.

Headhunter said...

But it looks like they used to replace felled trees by default until not long ago - there are a few very spindly new trees which were obviously planted a short while ago on Manor Ave, yet in the past year they have been tarmacking over places where trees formerly grew

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

Its a cost saving exercise. I complained about a recent removal of paving slabs for which the contractor - Conway - had replaced it with Tarmac.

THEIR DEFENSE: The tree on the path had roots going underneath the paving slabs which caused them to crack. We replaced this with tarmac as tarmac allows the tree roots to breath. This means that a 'bump' appears instead of a cracked paving slab.

However, they justified this on the grounds of safety - how much more safe is a bump rather than a crack? In additon, there was no signs of subsidence on the boundry wall adjcent to the path, indicating that the tree roots had not reached the other side of the path.

Interestingly, Conway has removed a LARGE section of paving slabs and replaced with tarmac - about 6 metres worth - all for one medium sized tree.

INCENTIVE: As part of the agreement with the council, Conway can KEEP paving slabs that they remove as the council has no where to store them.

CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Conway is allowed to sell the paving slabs they dig up. Normally these can be sold for about £100 each. Normally these are sold back to the council - who is their main customer.

SUMMARY: This means we 'give' £100 a slab to conway, and 'pay' another £100 slab via the council to buy it back. We therefore pay £200 per slab - when used. As this is expensive, the council opt for tarmac all the time.

RESULT: Our paths are getting worse. All paths suffer and look unsightly as this is normally done in peicemeal. We do not get value for money. Conway wins twice, having recieved free assets and providing the increased services for tarmacing.

Nice eh???

Anonymous said...

i'd understood - from someone who's been there much longer then I -- that the cherry trees on manor ave were the result of a long and arduous residents' campaign with the council in the '70s. I doubt there were ever glory days when the council went along happily planting / replacing trees of its own accord. its always a struggle -- this isn't because they are mean / lazy / stupid, but because they do not have enough resources to serve everyone who lives in lewisham as they ought. they just don't, and they never will. "they" (public servants are actually people) are probably no happier with this than anyone else.

Anonymous said...

Surely before we suggest where the remaining 5 trees ought to go, we need to know the sites which have already been allocated by the Council.

As I understand it, the main reason why 'street trees' won the vote for funding was that Brockley Road's appearance and environment needed improving.

I strongly believe that the trees should be planted in positions which will benefit the most people (whether residents of or visitors to Brockley. For this reason Brockley Road must be highlighted as the key site for a number of trees.

I do have concerns about the trees being planted on a specific residential street where few people will get to enjoy them. Similarly, if the odd tree is planted in already green locations where trees once stood, I fear that an chance to make a real difference will be lost.

This is a one-off opportunity make a positive impact on the appearance and atmosphere of our high street and create some pride in our community so Brockley Road is the obvious solution.

Perhaps our Councillor can inform us of the sites agreed so far and then discuss the matter in more detail based on that...?

Harry.

Anonymous said...

Can I make a plea? I am not sure what time of year these trees are going to be planted - it should be winter, when they are dormant - but when they are planted, please please keep an eye on them and water them using the pipe they should be planted with.

Up in surrey quays where we used to live, the council planted some lovely Plane trees. Out of six, two were ripped out by locals, two damaged by buses, and two remain but in a very withered state.

Obviously don't flood them but summer is hard on a new tree with a small root ball!

Yours,
tree queen

Glenda said...

Braxfield road is crying out for trees. Would make a lovely sight staring into a sunset when one is sat outside Moonbows...

Headhunter said...

Surely we can "share the love" and rather than spending the whole lot on trees along Brockley Road or Braxfield for example - streets personally I barely ever walk along, we can replace trees where the council has hacked them down and not put anything back? For example in the conservation area and along other previously tree lined streets where we now have gaps like broken teeth? Manor Avenue is just that - an Avenue, Avenues are supposed to be tree lined. If we remove the trees it may well go back to being Manor Road as it was until the 1930s...

Beren said...

Another plea for Howson Road! The one outside our house was removed by the council 2 years ago. They originally promised to replace it, but instead just tarmacked over the hole. Since then several other trees in the street have also disappeared.

Nina said...

I would really love to see some trees around Brockley Cross, which is such a miserable area and will probably look even more drab now the florist is closing.

Anonymous said...

Brockley road please - near the Barge.

Bobblekin said...

Agreed - anywhere along the public drag if possible - lets all get teh benefit of the trees - so Brockley rd near the barge or the cross roundabout.

Hopefully the pavements are wide enough to take the trees.

How about totally covering up teh sorting office with trees?

Anonymous said...

West of Brockley please, Corner of St Asaph and Avignon Road, outside St Asaph Stores or on the opposite corner outside a derelict looking shop.

This area often bears the brunt of fly-tips and rubbish and could do with a little lift.

Anonymous said...

Second that about st asaph and avignon!!

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

anywhere immediately west of brockley station would be good.

Anonymous said...

I don't live in Brockley but work in and around the area. The conservation area has plenty of trees and is beautiful. I think that the area around the station (east side) in the zone of coulgate/foxberry road/brockley road/howson/braxfield could do with some greenery. The area looks like it could do with some TLC. It is so close to the conservation area but quite unsightly in comparison. Also the west side would benefit from some tree. I am not sure where they could be placed exactly (sorry). I think it's funny that it (west side)is called the dark side because everytime I drive through that area it does seem darker and more dreary. So completely different to the rest of brockley.

Amanda said...

My view is that they should go on the main road, so as many people as possible can benefit.

If trees are removed by the council, it should be mandatory that they are replaced with either a smaller tree or better not to remove the tree and try to find a solution that doesn't involve it's destruction.

Trees can pose problems. We have a beautiful copper beech tree in our drive. It can be a nuisance, birds poop on the car, you have to deal with leaves in the autumn, (it took 4 sundays, 2 hours of work each time to rake and bag up its leaves). Its roots push through so the drive is bumpy but that tree is glorious and it is home/ pitstop to so many different types of birds. It blossoms in the most amazing way. It's about the same age as the house 120 years and to me it's bordering on the immoral to damage it. It was here first.

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