Longer opening hours for Brockley Market?

The Brockley Market team are thinking about applying for a license to stay open an hour longer each Saturday, running until 3pm. Founder Toby wants BCers views - should they do it? Answer him yeah or neah in the thread below please.

If they do apply for longer opening hours, we hope the Council will treat it as a formality, as it's of the best things to have happened to Brockley and the borough in recent years and has painlessly added to the number of stalls it hosts, since it began.

48 comments:

Anne said...

Yes please. It would also be good if it started earlier as well.

jik said...

3? It should go on 'til 5.

Neil said...

Yes great

Dave said...

No way, too dangerous, I might end up having 2 Mother Flipper burgers every Saturday ;)

Kenny Tinsel said...

I'm with Anne. I'm normally there at 10am but would happily turn up at 9am or even 8am so I had more of the day left afterwards. Extending hours later has a more obvious commercial benefit, but I wonder whether earlier hours would also make more money for traders. The weeks I don't shop at the market are the weeks I need to have left home by 11am...

Revelon said...

Yeah!

Jay G said...

No no no! The atmosphere, the soul, the vibe only works as there is a community vibe. Water the number of people at anyone time and you will posion the heart of the market and the heart if Beockley.

DecSop1 said...

Yes, opening at the same time. Not everyone wants to get up at sparrow's fart, but it'd be lovely if it stayed open a bit longer...as long as everyone won't sell out :) I love Brockley Market!

Louis said...

yes please and extended offer of traders too

Fabhat said...

Yes please!

Simon said...

I would like it to go on as late as possible please. We love it.

Annabel said...

Definitely longer 'till 3pm please! I always seem to pegging it there at the last minute to catch it before it closes...

Ramble said...

Yes please! I'd make it for lunch more.

I work on Saturdays until 1.30 so always struggle to get there.

Wicks said...

Fantastic

david said...

Yes to longer opening hours. Personally I'd vote for earlier, but I think most would prefer later - certainly it seems to get busier.

I'd agree with the one poster's concerns about diluting the vibe. Brockley's only so big. Last week it was packed probably in part because it was sunny. Opening times to vary with the seasons, perhaps?

By the way - anyone know what happened to the meat sellers who were in the top left (if you're standing on Lewisham Way) corner; not seen them for a couple of weeks?

lisa anderson said...

Until 3 would be great, and from 9am even better. 9 means a horribly early start for the traders, especially in winter, maybe just the summer months for extended hours?

Mr_Chas & Mr Chris said...

I vote yes !

Monkeyboy said...

yes, with the proviso that the traders commit to maintaining a decent stock level until closing. it can already look a little sparse by 13:00, no one wants to see hipsters fighting over the last grissini

Kenny Tinsel said...

I don't think it would be in the traders' interests if they thought it would dilute the same number of customers over a longer period. The expectation is surely that another hour = more customers = a bigger heart?

new girl Arabin said...

yes

Mike said...

Yes please! Would give me more time to get there on a Saturday as too often I've had a lie in from the night before! :)

Tamsin said...

Speaking as someone who has sometimes set up stall there (thank you so much Toby) starting earlier shouldn't be considered. I only have to get there and set up from a few streets away - for those coming in from a greater distance just far too much. Doesn't really get busy until half an hour or so after opening anyway - so it is not as if there are scores of early birds champing at the bit (if birds have bits) to get in.
An extra hour, though, would be good. The buzz and vibe of crowds might feel good - but it is tedious if you are queuing.
But summer and winter hours could be a good option. Switch back to 2pm when the clocks go back so that those coming from a distance have a chance of getting home and unpacked by daylight.

Ian said...

Seems like an excellent idea to me. Quite often I'll be coming back to Brockley on Saturday morning with no chance of making it to the market by 2pm.

Kenny Tinsel said...

I don't think that stall is there any more - but there's a new and absolutely brilliant butcher instead, next to the bread stall. http://www.thebutcheryltd.com/

Chris Cooke said...

Yes! Its pretty busy these days and thinning the crowd out a bit over a longer period would help.

Joanna Hugo said...

yes please!!

NAT said...

I'd say the Kentish ones, let alone those of Kent, have to leave pretty early as it is. That kind of goes with food production, but it might be nice to allow them a lie in 'til, say 5.30ish.
There are good precedents for late street markets, East Street in Victorian times was said to run until 2am all powered by oil lamps apparently.

Rose Bud said...

I'm sure most go for lunch (we do!) but longer hours may mean people would buy more. Can we use more of the car park and have more seating? More music too, maybe a craft stall or two? maybe you could have charity pitches for local schools/charities to fund-raise. would be more fun to look around too.

Monkeyboy said...

dunno, id be catious about adding a craft element. keep it food orientated. also, BOOZE. i keep nagging poor old toby about it, it would be great to pick up a bottle of Brockley or Late knights beer.

NAT said...

Yes I take your reservations about craft stalls, however I'm still looking fof some kind of outlet for my (turned down by Dragons Den, pre pitch!!) combined dream catcher sock dryer.

Chops said...

Yes, please, it shuts way too early. I would be all for it expanding so that there are more stalls - a place that does curry/rice/paella-type dishes would be amazing (that is, something a bit less bready/bunny/wrappy/pie-y (as amazing as those places are)). And somewhere that sells wine/ale. And I still don't understand why the roast chicken van stopped doing mac & cheese...

anononon said...

YEA!

Lena Bush said...

YES

MalpasSimon said...

Longer would be fantastic, We're pretty late risers at the weekend but love the market, it puts us off a bit knowing we get there too late to get the good fish and meats! Getting up early is obviously the answer, but that's been tried, we fail.

nikki said...

This made me laugh! Sadly, I agree with you!

tamsin said...

On the assumption that this is genuine (sounds a good idea provided you don't lose your socks out of the window) - have you got in touch with either the Craft Collective for their approximately quarterly craft fairs or the craft shop now operating in the Hill Station (see the Hill Trader thread)?

tamsin said...

Love your distinguishing them, but haven't you got it the wrong way round? The pub on Lewisham Way was "The Man of Kent", so isn't it the Kent[I]ish[I/] folk who are east of the Medway?

indencity said...

I live on Tressillian road and to be honest it's sickening to see so many people D R I V I N G to the market. Get out of your cars and walk - "Locally sourced seasonal fresh vegetables" sure, but feel free to entail clogging up the local atmosphere with exhaust fumes in the process. Sitting in a room with an open window is akin to suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning on a sunny day.

CK said...

Good plan, I agree!

bah said...

To be honest this is hardly a farmers market and comes across as more a food court/breakfast club for young professionals, the white middle/upper classes and their young. £5 for a loaf of bread, hah!

Brockley Nick said...

Specifically, it isn't a farmers market. They made it clear from the start it wouldn't be. It's a place to go to get delicious food. Some expensive, some inexpensive. All yummy.

Monkeyboy said...

some of the bread is cheaper, no market of this type is trying to compete on cost with supermarkets, what would be the point? most people do what i do, buy some quality stuff there nad head to the supermarket for the bulk of the weekly shop.

still, i suppose the misanthropic set has to find something to whinge about now that it hasn't fizzled out as was suspected by the usual suspects.

Max Calò said...

Yesterday I bumped into the Manor House Garden market that takes place the first Saturday of every month, I saw a nice stall of artisan bread and started chatting with the man of the stall about sourdough cultures. After a bit seeing that his conversation on sourdough was a bit generic I asked him is he was the man behind the bread-making and he said that he was working for a big company that supplies Waitrose among others and that he was basically a delivery man for the company. Still, nice guy, wonderful bread and a big 50% discount!

bemused said...

Actually living on the road makes, parking absolute hell. There are ques all the way up the road. If it was a local community thing people would be able to walk to it rather cloging up the roads. I have to either get my grocery shoping done before it opens so i can park some where closer than four roads from my home or wait until after it closes. I don't have the income to even consider doing any shopping there. I vote moving it to Hilly fields where there is space, would even be nicer for the shoppers rather than sitting in a car park to eat their over priced burgers they can sit surrounded by greenery.

Monkeyboy said...

so you object to people driving there because it prevents you from driving to somewhere else to shop? as for "four roads away" i just dont believe that.

nochange said...

Is parking really a problem? I drive to the market whenever I think I will be carrying large amounts home. I seldom have any problem parking nearby. There always seem to be places on the rail bridge.


Anyone who lives around there, knows all about parking congestion during the week when the car park and the surrounding streets are used by staff and student during the day and when there are evening courses.


The market, for a few hours on Saturday, is small potatoes in comparison. Using an otherwise empty car park, makes a lot of sense.


I vote it stays exactly where it is.

terrencetrentderby said...

Agreed, more artisan than honest but still nice food on offer if you are prepared to tolerate the Jeremies and their prams.
The veg and butcher stalls are good value.

Brockley Nick said...

Likewise. I try to walk but will occasionally drive if I'm going on somewhere afterwards and never have problems parking on that road, let alone on nearby roads. I absolutely agree that we should encourage more people to walk (and I bet it's the local people who drive, rather than the "out-of-towners", but the formula works where it is.

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