Community support for "sympathetic" mews development

The Brockley Society has conducted a survey of residents whose properties back on to Brockley's mews, which suggests cautious support for improving the quality of the mews to reduce anti-social behaviour by local business and to encourage new types of use.

Carried out in the summer, BrocSoc says:

"There is most support for using and developing the Mews as a nature reserve or open space and allowing craft activities, residential garages and private communal gardens. Offices are supported but with restrictions.

"There is opposition to mechanics or business garages, residential homes and light industry."

The majority of respondents raised concerns about issues such as fly-tipping, abandoned cars, poor surface conditions and dog fouling. Overall, BrocSoc claims that there was support for "sympathetic development" and more effective enforcement of regulations by the Council and police.

The survey results seem reasonable and sensible enough, but we'll be asking BrocSoc for a more detailed breakdown of the data and for their views on how to move these issues forward.


Tyrwhitt Road said...

Very quiet on the blog front today.

No mews in Tyrwhitt Road although the remnants of White Post Lane can be seen at the bottom of my garden from the time when it ran all the way from Loampit Hill to Hilly fields.

Tyrwhitt Michael - this time said...

That should have been Tyrwhitt Michael of course.

Deptford Pudding said...

This initiative should be resisted, there are several businesses that have been there for decades that are light industry. They are an integral part of the Brockley scene. Who among us has never had a knife or saw sharpened in Ashby Mews, or ironwork made by the Art of Cast? Or taken their Renault 4 to Renospeed?
Broc Soc would like to see a tweeification. In come 'craft' workshops, 'artists' studios and offices for gods sake, and out go the old industries.

Monkeyboy said...

Are they advocating removal of existing bussineses?

Not sure said...

@this is england

We can catalogue your comment under the "as long as it is not in my back yard" type of comment.

I hope you own a R4; it would at least make a stronger argument. Selfish, but stronger.

I am not sure I agree Brockley is about spraying painting, hammering bodywork parts and using HHO in people's backyard.

That is fairly recent history

Deptford Pudding said...

@ notsuresaid: What do you think the mews were built for? Not for offices, macrame and knitting. They were built for horses carriages blacksmiths and ancillary trades. Together with other tradespeople that serviced the big houses. They'd have thronged with horse poo and pee and rough blokes hawking and spitting and enjoying a bowl of shag. Plus ca change... I was at the Art of Cast this week and last week and
I owned a Renault 4 for 7 years, the 6 volt 3 speed model, made in 1966, years ahead of its time. Have you been to Renospeed?

Elsiemaud Boy said...

@This is England - not in Brockley they weren't. If you want to use the 'it's always been this way' argument you need to look elsewhere. The days of carriage travel were almost over by the time these houses were built. Brockley mews were stables and nothing more. The light industry that has sprung up there is recent - it is a cheap way of having a workshop - and as the recent fires in the mews show - an unregulated one.

Deptford Pudding said...

Sorry thats just daft. Whats the point of stables unless they were using the horses to pull various carriages? They didn'yt keep them as pets. The old Lewisham Road station at the top of Loampit Hill had, until the 1980s I think, a cobbled forecourt with a horse drawn cab shelter. Of course in 1880 trains, planes and balloons were coming in, but there wasn't a sudden halt to horse-drawn travel, there was a very gradual transition. The 1st World War was largely horse-driven, vast amounts of hay were transported to France and thousands of horses were killed. The builders of these houses were not to know that Henry Ford was waiting in the wings for those that could afford him. Horses were still pulling milk floats, potato carts, bakers wagons right up to the 1950s.
There has always been some sort of light industry in the mews. I don't know why I'm being accused of nimbyism, I'm all for a mix of industry in the mews, not some elitist utopian allotment/garden.
London is littered with mews still operating light industrial businesses, even in Belgravia and Mayfair. When I worked in Sth Ken I sometimes had my Renault 4 serviced in a mews off the Old Brompton Rd opposite Harrods.
I think that if you move to a house or flat that backs onto a mews then you might expect some level of industry, otherwise you'd be like the people that move to the country and complain about the cows.

Headhunter said...

I'm sceptical of development of the mews. Using them as some kind of open space, perhaps, or for community activities. However I really don't want commercial development like offices and I don't believe that the council would actually enforce "restrictions" if they were put in place. Who is actually going to enforce regulations set in place? Lewisham BC has shown little interest so far.

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