Gordonbrock School redevelopment plans approved
Following last night's Council hearing, at which revised plans to redevelop Gordonbrock School were opposed by the Brockley Society, the Ladywell Village Improvement Group reports that:
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3.9.10
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Good! I was feeling very guilty because my neighbour asked me to write to the planners supporting the re-build and I just clean forgot. Fortunately I think others were more energetic than me.
Well, I hope funding runs out for this one!!
Crap project costing almost £20m to tax payers.
Cameron please take notice, there are some easy savings to be made in Brockley now that the minimum quotas of affordable houses are being erased, there will be a reduced need for school places.
another crap decison from a crap council
Fantastic News
Whoever can say that a rebuild that will improve the quality of education for so may children in our community is CRAP is seriously ill informed.
Sounds like sour grapes from the Brockley society to me.
Cameron do the miracle please!!!
'now that the minimum quotas of affordable houses are being erased, there will be a reduced need for school places.'
Eh? Does anyone else understand the logic here? Primary schools all over London are bulging at the seams, and it isn't because there's lots of affordable housing just been built. There has never been enough school capacity in inner London as a matter of deliberate policy and now that slightly fewer people are sending their children to private schools or moving out of London before their children reach school age, councils are scrambling to set up portakabins in school playgrounds so they can meet demand.
Confused.com. Are those above saying we don't need a better school? Even the brocsoc admit that. Their argument was the architectural merit...spurious in my view. We need better schools though, obvious. No?
.....ooohhh... My grammar! Never post after five pints.
We need BETTER schools yes, not crap buildings. People constantly confuse the two. Their (Brockley Society's) argument is about our overall built environment. Many different kinds of buildings contribute to the built environment.
As an individual, I remain to be convinced that new is necessarily ALWAYS better (good, often, better, not necessarily). So I'll say it again, we need to be more worried about the quality of teaching and teachers than whether we have white boards or not. Gordonbrock needs money spending on its fabric, repairs, improvements, not a cheap looking re-hash. But anyway, my opinion is irrelevant it seems now.
At the Planning Meeting last night the architects who had out together the plans for three schools that were all built pre-1930 (ie 80+ years) were gushing about how their specila-treated wood laminate cladding would last 20 years! How is replacing schools whose fabric has lasted anywhere from 80 to 105 years, as with Gordonbrock) with ones whose fabric will only last 20 an improvement in the long term. These schools will just need to be rebuilt in 20-30 years time, like Prendergast Sixth Form college is being rebuilt.
As Hey Said we need better [resourced] schools of a good build not a crap building which will start falling apart in a few years...
And obviously those schools needed no maintenance for 80 years? Because one component has a twenty year life does not mean that the school will need a rebuild in twenty years.
Don't know why kids today need pens either, Plato used a wax tablet. He did ok....etc
From now on Brocsoc should be in charge of all local decisions..... That way we can all go back to wearing top hats and bonnets. Aaah those were the days. I hate you modern people with cars. Be gone with you.
I was hoping the funding would run out, so we could have a brilliant refurbishment.
I picked up a local paper for Islington on the train and there were outcries because they were planning to close schools in that borough. You don't need to spend over £10million to provide 15 extra places per year in a school. Is this a blip, and in 5 years will they be low on numbers. The classes aren't full now.
Have you met Lou? you two would get along briliantly. Are you saying we have too many places at the moment and will have too many going forward? Even the excellent BrocSoc didn't claim that.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when it's that little.
Quick! give the BBC aa ring! they've got it hoplesly wrong! Or are they Labour /Marxist stooges hell bent on destroying the Cameron/Clegg bromance?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11193196
shhhhhhhhh stop bleating and look at the bigger picture
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11193196
And this one, which points out that Lewisham has had to create 17 extra Reception classes for this term:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10394134
(The links in the previous two posts are for the same story, by the way.)
Many years ago there seem to have been some true idiots involved with this rebuild, who sanctioned a very poor rebuild plan under a PFI scheme. This dire and educationally 'out of date' scheme was held as a threat to everyone when they opposed what became the illegal planning application. If you were involved in that, I'd be feeling guilty. Not over whether you sent a letter to the planners now.
They are cutting primary school places down the road, where they had a fine site for and space for a three form entry school. Plus you can make Gbrock 3 form entry with far less disruption without destroying so much of the existing school.
I don't know anyone in my planning circles who would have expected this to get planning as a brand new application without the recent history behind it. Good? It is criminal..and don't bore me with what about the children and outside loos. At least they can have a crap in privacy.
Sounds like you have a fag packet scheme to go alongside the brocsocs "alternative" design which was, at a stretch, a concept only.
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