Why Coulgate Street needs part-pedestrianisation: Exhibit A


We want to support local business. We want lively, attractive high streets. Allowing massive vans to block all the natural light from a popular local asset likes Browns of Brockley - or the Broca, which often comes in for similar treatment - is therefore a bad idea.


Please sign the petition, which would restrict the number of vehicles that can clog up Coulgate Street, by introducing parking bays, shared surfaces and limiting the times of day during which people could park.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

i couldn't agree more.

Billy said...

Ban white vans from parking on the street? You do realise that we're talking about Brockley, South East London, not Chelsea?

This will come across as terribly misplaced snobbery.

Billy said...
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Anonymous said...

Billy, don't be a hero.

Anonymous said...

Don't be a fool with your life.

Brockley Nick said...

@Billy - it's not about white vans per se, they could be horse boxes or Porshe Cayennes for all I care. It's about freeing from traffic this pretty little spot that both community groups and independent businesses have worked so hard to make in to an attractive gateway to Brockley and an important focal point for the local community.

It's also about cutting down on the number of people from outside the area who drive in to Brockley every day to get a handy parking spot for a zone 2 station, thus preventing people who actually want to use their car to pop to the shops on that street from parking nearby.

Nothing to do with snobbery, although the suggestion that South East London mustn't hope for better than its current lot is a good example of snobbery.

Monkeyboy said...

Some will see it as class war.

It may also come across as a practical measure to make Coulgate Street and Brockley as a whole more attractive while helping the businesses thrive. An eminently sensible measure with little impact to most people, no one is anti van, just anti van there.

What do the residents and shops on the street think? I suspect most support the measure. I hope the survey is weighted toward their asperations.

(I claim my pen)

Anonymous said...

What if it was a white van - but, and here's the clever bit - with a picture of a lovely shop on the side - even lovelier than Brown's of Brockley? Like a tea shop in Harrogate. Ahh, see what I've done there - I've completely messed with your minds, aha, aha, aha, aha, aha....

Brockley Nick said...

Get Artmongers on the case.

Anonymous said...

foiled again, NURSE!

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Signed the petition but declined to donate $2.

Hope that's OK.....

Tamsin said...

Even if it was the Find the Three Daughters white van (for the shop in Greenwich - nearer than Harrogate) it would be wrong there if it was parked for more than, say, an hour. Or maybe 30 minutes. Quite agree that the area wants restricted parking - selfishly would not go so far as to say no parking.

Memo to self - must see if I can park there for a few minutes on the way home to get some more of their to die for ice-cream...

Tamsin said...

Even if it was the Find the Three Daughters white van (for the shop in Greenwich - nearer than Harrogate) it would be wrong there if it was parked for more than, say, an hour. Or maybe 30 minutes. Quite agree that the area wants restricted parking - selfishly would not go so far as to say no parking.

Memo to self - must see if I can park there for a few minutes on the way home to get some more of their to die for ice-cream...

Tamsin said...

Sorry - that came out twice, and I did not sign in so I can't remove the spare.

What is the wording for the Petition, though?

Anonymous said...

If they live close cant they walk to the shops.

Brockley Nick said...

Yes indeed they can, unless they have some sort of mobility impairment. But we also want those who don't live so close to spend their money in Brockley.

Brockley Nick said...

Yes indeed they can, unless they have some sort of mobility impairment. But we also want those who don't live so close to spend their money in Brockley.

Ed said...

I park there but then I live in the tea factory; strongly support pedestrian friendly however.

HN said...

I don't drive and encourage others not to, but... there must be a reason why they park there though? Where else can they park - certainly not on Brockley Road.

Brockley Nick said...

a) loads of roads nearby
b) near their own homes and they can use their own local transport options

Anonymous said...

Is this the same coulgate st that certain posters say is "a horror to cross, with parked cars everywhere"?

Sounds absolutely ghastly, should we set up some sort of local support system?

Robert Sheppard said...

Just to mention you can now e-petition direct via the Council website at http://lewisham-consult.limehouse.co.uk/portal/petitions. In fact if you use this facility you will, I think, be the first people to do so as it's not long been up.

white van dogger said...

white vans are good for mass dogging activities - plenty of room to swing in the back and can be swabbed down easily

Anonymous said...

At least the vans blocking the fools that to pose at Browns with their laptops. Broca has a better quality of middle class consumer.

Nice to see BC punching above its weight for the middle class minority.

Brockley Nick said...

Middle class people are just as likely to park in Coulgate Street as anyone else, this is not about class.

Anony nonny said...

Ahhhh.... Slightly incoherent rage. The corner stone of every good blog comment, good work. Now take a lie down and watch tony Blair on BBC2. That'll get you miffed.

Anonymous said...

No-one poses with a laptop in this day and age - that would be so 90's.

Can't be very nice to have your business regularly bricked in by the another business with fleet of big vans and no car park. They are clearly obstructing anther businesses trade.

Anonymous said...

What if the owner of the van was inside buying a bag of loose mung tea?

so you know said...

The imaginary tumble weed is going that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

DJ said...

Then he would have come out empty handed and hopefully moved his f*cking van!

Anonymous said...

The Idea of turning Coulgate street into a pedestrian only zone, (save for taxis) is not a new one. I firmly believe that as a "small town" with excellent transport links, the areas outside both stations need to be as inviting as possible.

The only problem with pedestrianising coulgate street is the 172, that uses it as a round about when it terminates early. I know! the 172 terminating early..... theres a surprise ;)

Anonymous said...

"No-one poses with a laptop in this day and age - that would be so 90's."

yeah... except for "Mac heads". posing with their imacs, and ipods, and iphones. All dolled up with beige clothes from Gap, where they probably scored with the overly 'camp' guy you find in every Gap store! All they need now 2is a starbucks, and they'll be in "Iheaven", licking a poster of steve jobs. He's NOT the messiah.... he's a very naughty boy!

anyway, rant over. The disused industrial space on Endwell road could easily become a useful car park for over 100 cars. And with excellent access to the station. Pitty the rent is only £12,000 a year, while the business rate is "£28,000". High business rates really deter new business.

drakefell debaser said...

Clearly an exmple of a closet apple consumer with a log cabin on their shoulder.

Headhunter said...

Bit late to this. Sitting in a cafe with a Mac dressed in beige clothes from Gap.... Incredibly 1990s. Catch up with the times, it's 2010!

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