New plan for Brockley Cross revealed

Last weekend, at the Brockley Cross Action Group AGM, the Council provided the details of their new plans to redevelop the area around the junction.

The design refines their initial efforts, which disappointingly unambitious. The new plans are much better, including the following improvements:
  • There is a new zebra crossing, which should make crossing the junction much easier
  • Geoffrey Road gets a small central island to make it safer to cross - it should have an additional benefit of making that spot impossible to double park at, which is currently a problem
  • The parking bay on the south side has been replaced with some short term parking. The current set-up encourages dangerous double-parking. Whether this change will resolve that remains to be seen, but any attempt to do solve that problem has to be welcome
  • The parking well on the north side, which has been monopolised by D&M Vans, has gone. This will prevent this spot from feeling like a narrow corridor for pedestrians between a wall of vans. It may even persuade D&M to move somewhere where they have proper off-street parking permission and to set up in an office where they have planning permission to do so. Just as likely, however, is that they will look to other streets to store more of their vans, so we hope that traffic enforcement keeps that in mind
  • Shardeloes Road gets a new zebra crossing, while the dangerous zebra crossing on Brockley Road gets a new central island, which should reduce approach speeds and improve safety
The overall effect of these changes should mean that the area becomes a great deal more pedestrian friendly. Combined with the new planned development on the corner of Geoffrey Road and some tree planting, the area should be a nicer, less chaotic spot, discouraging the illegal parking chaos that it currently breeds.

The plans are not yet completely finalised and there will be a further opportunity to have your say in October.
Work on the pedestrian crossings will begin this autumn, while work  on the rest of the plans should start in February 2012.

Well done to the Council for responding to some of the initial feedback, we hope the plans to improve the parking situation remain in the final analysis.

35 comments:

irrelevant comment said...

The graphic looks like an owl.

Anonymous said...

... and a substance abuse centre right in the middle :-)

Anonymous said...

*LIKE*

(in a Facebook stylee)

Mb said...

Plusgood, almost doubleplusgood.

If Conways MUST do it can we ensure their workmanship is monitored. They did a good job outside The Barge and they are a respected contractor in the big wide world (honestly) but please can we get their 'A' team and not the 'Z'.

Anonymous said...

Could do with an extra roundabout really...

Anonymous said...

Net gain and significant improvement on the last plans but those crossing Endwell Road will still be risking their lives to do so and there is no mention of renewal of the existing zebra crossing (but you have to assume that they will do this when the island goes in).

Anonymous said...

aww what happened to the feature tree?

Brockley Nick said...

In the middle of the roundabouts - good point, the BXAG mentioned that there may be scope to put something there, though not necessarily a tree.

Anonymous said...

Yes, good point Mb - let's hope someone from the council is going to project-manage Conways VERY carefully this time.

Peter Tooke said...

York Stone paving - that'll cost a pretty penny. Difficult to justify in the current public spending climate even if it will look great . . .

Anonymous said...

Nice to see Nick is commenting

Anonymous said...

peter tooke who on earth are you

Matt-Z said...

@Peter Tooke

Most Yorkstone paving these days isn't genuine. It comes from India and such places, costs a fraction of the price, but looks close enough to the real thing.

Running Nutter said...

It looks brilliant. Congrats and thanks to BXAG.

JAPE said...

Well this is encouraging... and will greatly improve the Cross. Well done to all concerned.

fidgad said...

I am sorry but any scheme that retains the double roundabout is IMHO less than 5/10 and a lost opportunity to do something worthwhile.

fabhat said...

Those extra zebra crossings will make a huge difference and so nice to have the pavement back at the bottom of Geoffrey Rd. I don't know what I'll do with out my primal scream therapy every morning - yelling at the idiots driving over the current zebra crossing at Brockley Cross...

Ben Pearce said...

Yes, brilliant work all round - particularly around the Geoffrey Rd entrance and 'van parking' bit. I cant wait to see it finally happen

Anonymous said...

I won't miss the yelling and woeful head shaking fabhat but I don't even use the crossing, I yell and shake for others :)

Anonymous said...

Crossing Endwell Road is still a big problem in the new scheme. Why not zebra crossings all around?

Robert said...

Yes. Congratulations to the council for listening to our concerns - even if we did have to kick up a bit of a fuss.

And thanks to BXAG for leading the charge.

Just one thing. How about a feature signpost in the central reservation, instead of a tree?

Brockley CPZ said...

Now that Brockley Cross is on its way, thanks to the action group, I think is time to re-direct attention to Coulgate and the station.

I noticed very positively that the number of cyclists is on the rise. More and more bikes are chained to fences.

I think it is clear we need more proper parking for bikes, and we also want Coulgate for pedestrians rather than cars and Vans

Anonymous said...

I heard it was going to be part-pedestrianised. Is there a plan for this?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know who owns the land with two containers and pavillon estate boards next to the station? Is it the Council? That would be the perfect place for a large bike parking.

Brockley Nick said...

Pavilion own that land, I believe.

Anonymous said...

Work starts Feb 2012,Conways doing the contract, work finishes ?????

Anonymous said...

I am glad the area will be more pedestrian friendly; long overdue. However, i hope the approaches to the roundabouts remain as double lanes. there will be more traffic congestion on malpas/Geoffrey road junction . For some reason the existing road markings on that approach suggest using the inside lane to go straight onto drakefell & turn left onto brockley road and use outside lane to turn right only. This causes a lot of congestion during peak hours. If the outside lane was used for those going straight across (to drakefell) and right to endwell roads then congestion would be improved in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

If Pavilion owns it, does it mean the number of horrible building around the station is about to increase again?

Anonymous said...

Is there a tree in the middle of the road like one of the earlier plans?

drakefell debaser said...

This causes a lot of congestion during peak hours. If the outside lane was used for those going straight across (to drakefell) and right to endwell roads then congestion would be improved in my opinion.


The best thing to do in my opinion is to not drive down Drakefell Rd at all.

Anonymous said...

Yeah bring back the feature tree! Makes it more green

Anonymous said...

This causes a lot of congestion during peak hours. If the outside lane was used for those going straight across (to drakefell) and right to endwell roads then congestion would be improved in my opinion.


The best thing to do in my opinion is to not drive down Drakefell Rd at all.


Great idea: lets stop everyone driving down all roads by paving them all over with the Yorkstone paving....how helpful.

Anonymous said...

The double roundabout would work a lot better if people indicated on and off and didn't queue jump causes them to become traffic jammed

drakefell debaser said...

I was being facetious.. But I'd prefer grass to York paving, should we ever have the chance to implement your suggestion, anon.

brockley sparrow said...

The ramps too and from the roundabouts are an awful idea. The fact that there are roundabouts and zebra crossings before each is enough to make people slow down. Why does Lewisham Council insist on treating all drivers like maniacs. The unintended consequences could be cars backed up on all roads which neither drivers, pedestrians or residents would welcome

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