Two o'clock and all is well

Thank you for all your kind words about yesterday and today's coverage. We're glad it was appreciated.

There's already been a lot said about what happened in Lewisham last night, but there are a few more things we'd like to add:
  1. Respect and gratitude due to Lewisham Council's clean-up team who had cleared Lewisham before the volunteer army had got there this morning at 9am
  2. Perhaps there is an upside to having Europe's largest police station on your doorstep - although the damage in Lewisham was serious, it was dwarfed by what happened in Croydon, Clapham and many other parts of the capital. No-one who saw the video of rioting in Woolwich can doubt how stretched the police were yesterday.
  3. Well done too to Cllr Mike Harris, who sounded an early warning about the danger and came in for some bizarre stick for from some readers early in the evening, as though his Tweets, decrying the threats, had somehow stoked things up. That is a ridiculous charge.
  4. Thanks to the London Fire Brigade, who say they had to deal with 15 times the number of fires they would handle on a normal night.
Right now, Brockley is calm. The sky is blue. The Co-Op has been fixed. Let's hope it stays that way. There is some speculation that the area will be hit again today and many businesses in Lewisham and elsewhere are closing early. We've just come back from Kings College Hospital, undergoing some rather brutal dentistry, leaving us looking like this guy:

The staff and service were fantastic and if you'll allow us to make a trite point, an example of how strong and successful London's multicultural society really is. Nonetheless, all the talk as they rooted around in our mouth was about the prospects for Camberwell this evening, which is among the areas rumoured to be a target, along with Greenwich, according to the Guardian (a reader confirms that Southwark Council is anticipating possible problems at Camberwell Green).

So if there are credible threats or outbreaks of looting today in South East London, we will create a new thread, with live updates. It will help our coverage if you can send us your updates, photos, etc via Twitter @BrockleyCentral

Finally, we'll leave you with the soothing words of Mayor Bullock, who said this in response to last night's rolling violence:

‘I condemn these acts of criminal violence which are being carried out by a minority of law breakers. Nothing can justify this behaviour.

‘I am deeply concerned about the impact on individuals and businesses in Lewisham. Police and other public servants have acted to deal with the issues our city faces but are being stretched to the limit. The Council will do everything it can to support the police and emergency services to protect the law-abiding community in our borough. We must not forget that the vast majority of our young people are decent, hard working individuals who will be appalled by the damage that is being done to our communities.’

25 comments:

Amy said...

I've just had a call to say it has already started in Deptford, Lewisham and Catford. I was wondering whether/how this can be verified?

Anonymous said...

Our nursery in Brockley has just called to say the children have to be picked up early as they have been advised by Lewisham council to shut early.

Molewife said...

Suspect we the same nursery Anon 14.17! Ours closed at 1. I went home via Budgens and Jay's son got a call to say that there were a gang of about 40 hoodies down there and the shopkeepers were closing up now. I had thought that the nursery were just being extra careful as last night the staff struggled to get home (one got trapped on a bus in Peckham) - now I'm not so sure.

I am so angry that a bunch of bored school kids with nothing better to do in the holidays can make me feel so vulnerable.

Anonymous said...

This sums it all up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNmQBx2WyN0&feature=player_embedded

Nim said...

Molewife I agree - I resent the fact I am stuck indoors with my daughter when I want to be out in the park with her. Lee Green is completely boarded up already so I'm not risking it. Hoping someone can post an update soon on what is happening - any news from Lewisham central / Ladywell / Brockley?

ade said...

Sainsburys in New Cross have closed for the day - friends say shops around Camberwell are also closed

Barbara said...

Honor Oak is almost all shuttered and shut, Budgens had heard rumours that kids were heading to Brockley, but there's lots of kids on bikes heading south, saying into their phones stuff along the lines of "Catford, yeah"?

Anonymous said...

Our nursery on Belmont HIll also shut up early. My daughter wasn't there today so don't actually know what Lewisham is looking like. I live in Ladywell and so far haven't heard any sirens wailing or anything. Fingers crossed it's just precautionary.

Crofton Park Ranger said...

Brockley threat level indicator: Will Babur deliver?

Might buy some supplies at the west end M&S before heading home just in case...

Molewife said...

Sorry, meant to say that the gang of hoodies were in Catford! Not sure how I managed to miss that fairly pertinent piece of information off my earlier post...

@Nim, yes, I feel like I would be taking an unnecessary risk by going to HF park with my daughter - part of me feels that's paranoid and stupid, and the other part feels like I would be daft to leave the house given the situation. Grrrr.

I think maybe it's all the council-run nurseries that are closing - anyone at a local private one that has shut?

Anonymous said...

Our nursery is private and has shut up shop for the afternoon.

SarahG said...

Stock up on dinner supplies in town if you can, as most supermarkets in the area have closed. Sainsburys and Tescos in Forest Hill were closed by 2pm this afternoon! :0(

Molewife said...

Budgens in Crofton Park will only close if they actually see trouble - at least that's what they said earlier. Just in case anyone is stuck and needing food!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, anyone know about Costcutter on Brockley Rd (opposite the Barge)?
They NEVER close - they even stay open after robberies, when the front is smashed in! Surely they won't?

Nim said...

I've stocked up on long-life milk incase the shops don't reopen soon, and some bottled water as apparantly the residential water supply was struggling in Croydon last night due to the firefighting effort, so by using that instead for drinking I can ease a litle pressure on the Thames Water supplies. Thankfully it's not (clothes)wash or bath night!!
I got mine from the Tesco petrol station on the A205 / A20 junction, had plenty if supplies when we went and the roads around here are very quiet too. But I can hear another helicopter...

Tamsin said...

Oak Hill was watching the situation - and took a view at 3.30 to close at 4. A lot of parents were already coming in to collect their children and the remaining ones who were contacted were OK with shutting two hours early.

The parents are local and the journey nursery to home would be OK - our concern was the staff going home at a greater distance and nearly three hours down the line after 6pm.

Trusting that tomorrow will be business as usual.

Anonymous said...

'I've stocked up on long-life milk incase the shops don't reopen soon, and some bottled water ...'

Hey, if more people do that, we can start a real panic, have a run on shop supplies and then a middle-class riot as we each struggle for the last Cherry Bakewell.

middle class said...

Fighting over a cherry bakewell? I don't think so, not when the Broca does such nice ones.

So far so good on the riot front, anyway. Let's hope it stays that way.

BXSpy said...

kicking off right now at Brockley Cross. Police on their way. Fights between masked youths & local shop keepeers. Bloody terrifying.

BXSpy said...

The shopkeepers did a great job! One of the masked idiots got a proper kicking. Police have chased the rest off. Calm again now.

Nim said...

Anonymous - I have an under three-year old child here and no idea when the shops might reopen, and if the water may go off due to the firefighting. So yes, I have stocked up on milk and water for her benefit.
If I was panic-buying I'd have got a lot more in. Although I did sneak a chocolate croissant into my trolley as well...

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Anonymous said...

People like Transpontine usually advocate a lawless state where people come and go as they please, live anywhere and take anything. When you get a preview of it in real life it's revealed as the ill thought through, crustafarian fantasy it really is.

Brockley Nick said...

I think you probably meant this to be on the other thread, but (and not that he needs it) I'd like to leap to Transpontine's defence - he does not advocate a lawless worldview.

However, in this particular case, I think he has done what he accused me of - allowing his political sympathies to cloud his judgement of their actions.

Little Richardjohn said...

"The staff and service were fantastic and if you'll allow us to make a trite point, an example of how strong and successful London's multicultural society really is."
Not a trite point at all. the riots have exploded several great lies of our time. One of them being the ill-effects of immigration and multi-culturalism.
Those pesky immigrants with their shops and communities and comradeship! Coming over here. Defending our streets. Restoring order..

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