Greenwich Council approves cruise liner terminal and cable car

Greenwich Council tonight approved two major schemes designed to strengthen the Peninsula's tourist infrastructure in time for the London Olympics:


1. A terminal at Enderby Wharf capable of handling cruise liners and a new public space connected to the Thames Path.

2. A cable car, which will link the O2 with the Excel centre, providing a new river crossing and a connection with the Jubilee Line at North Greenwich.

Darryl from 853Blog has been providing a live Twitter feed from the Council meeting and reports that both projects were backed unanimously.

Both are expected to be ready in time for the 2012 Olympics, for which Greenwich is one of the host boroughs.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Maybe they will pay for a fireworks display then eh.

DJ said...

This sounds great. A cable car! Nice.

Tamsin said...

That is good news - the idea has been rumbling on for ages. Just a pity that the artist's sketch for a cruise/tourist terminal in such a unique and historic site focuses on glass fronted blocks that could be anywhere.

Brockley Nick said...

Given that it's located on the peninsula, I'm not sure how unique or historic the location is.

Mb said...

A small point of order. Enderby warf and the Alcatel site was (and still is) at the center of the development of intercontinental telecoms. Enderby House, on the Alcatel site, is listed.

No objection to the teminal but I hope they incorporate some of the sites history, the warf loaded some of the earliest subsea cables. The fore runner of Alcatel and STC made the cable that the Great Eastern layed across the atlantic, there's a picture of the cable laying in the Maritime Museaum. Also, more importantly, there is a side gate that allowed us to sneak back into site so avoiding the disapproving looks of site security when we were on the sauce of a friday lunchtime.

Happy days.

Brockley Nick said...

Ah yes, no disrespect intended towards the area's contribution towards the information revolution.

mb said...

A statue of me would be a fitting reminder.

Brockley Nick said...

A bit like Guy the Gorilla's statue at London Zoo.

mb said...

Yes, with a collecting tin for people to show their appreciation.

Matt-Z said...

Like this?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1179/1193006202_25504fb25a_o.jpg

patrick1971 said...

There was a campaign at one point to turn Convoys Wharf in Deptford into a luxury cruise terminal. As a friend of mine said at the time, "It'll be interesting to see Joan Collins and Zsa Zsa Gabor trotting down Deptford High Street to buy their Call Ghana phonecards." The proposal was rejected by the council at the time in favour of housing.

So we now have a cruise line terminal after all. Interesting.

Lou Baker said...

It'll be great for London to have a cruise ship terminal - and mind numbingly stupid of Lewisham to let Greenwich get there first.

Yay for the cable car too. Let's hope it's extended to Canary Wharf and on again to Rotherhithe.

max said...

Agree with all of the above, great missed opportunity for Lewisham.

Matt-Z said...

I agree with Lou in part, but the Borough needs more housing, and Convoy's Wharf will do more for locals as a housing development than a posh ship mooring. As mentioned, the rich seafarers would be unlikely to leave the confines of port and brave the mean streets.

@Patrick, I think Zsa Zsa's trotting days are behind her.

Lou Baker said...

@matt

More reason why it should have come here - it would gave brought jobs.

It's all well and good wanting to build loads of affordable housing but if there are no jobs it's all a little pointless.

Lewisham's lost a potential good investment for the borough - and all because the council's dominated by extreme lefties with a contempt for affluence and aspiration.

TM said...

Neither Convoys nor Enderby Wharves are much cop as Cruise terminals as neither has any decent public transport links.

As usual our public servants couldn't organise a pi** up in a brewery.

max said...

I completely agree with Lou on this one. 100%.

A posh ship mooring?
Cruising is actually a rather affordable and popular option for a lot of people, especially pensioners.
No more class-war rethoric please.

A cruiseliners approach brings a lot of jobs, some are connected with the passengers, a lot of other jobs are connected to the servicing of the ships.
And by the way it mainly occupies water. There wouldn't have been much of a loss of houses built on stilts on the water.

The Convoy Wharf development will change the nature of the area that in large part has already changed, the argument that "rich seaferers" would just flee it once off the boat is completely bogus.
Deptford would have reconnected with its seafaring past and would have created a very good approach point for ships as it is a stone's throw from Greenwich centre.

We didn't pursue this opportunity because of a lack of vision of Lewisham Council.

Ed said...

I remain unconvinced that either project is anything to get excited about...

Mb said...

It was the 'ultra lefty" comment, lack of vision possibly, inertia? but rampant communism? That's silly and undermines the credibillity of the argument. It's as if he rounded off the argument by blaming giant lizards.

Danja said...

Are Lewisham residents banned from working in Greenwich then?

Brockley Nick said...

@Ed - a cable car is fun! A cruise liner terminal brings lots of tourists in to the local economy!

@Tm - bit harsh. The Jubilee line is right there and they are promising to create a shuttle service on the river. You never know, the Jubilee line upgrade might be finished by then?

Mb said...

I've just realised, everytime I post on here it cost the tax payer 50p.

TM said...

Enderby Quay to North Greenwich Jubilee Line station walking is according to Google maps 1.6 miles with a crossing of the A102(M) dual carriageway thrown in.

Hardly "right there" Nick.

Brockley Nick said...

oh. Ok then.

Sue said...

@LouBaker said

"Lewisham's lost a potential good investment for the borough - and all because the council's dominated by extreme lefties with a contempt for affluence and aspiration."

Extreme lefties?! Huh? Go on then, name me one "extreme leftie" who holds any clout on the Council?!

Anonymous said...

if you're left of Palin, you're a goddamn commie, pinko threat to all that's good..... or sommat.

Anonymous said...

You are right there are fewer extremists on the council now, and even when there were more they had very little clout.

max said...

The extreme leftie bit of Lou's comment is a bit silly, but the meat of the argument is true.
The Council rubbished and ridiculed what in the light of the Greenwhich decision was a very sound proposal indeed.

Lou Baker said...

@sue

No offence - but you Greenies are leftie loons for a start.

Misguidedly obsessed with the environment to such an extent that it makes all your policies a bit of a joke.

Ironically, your environmental policy is a joke too.

But, as you point out, you Greens don't actually have any clout - and never will - so you can all carry on being a bit misguided and strange from the sidelines.

But I am sure you are lovely people and well meaning too. So we'll forgive you.

Mb said...

Lou, you sound like you need a hug. Why so unhappy all the time?

Come 'ere big man *hugs the miserable old f**cker*

Better?

Mb said...

it's been posted before but here it is again..... Just think, some of the posts here travel through infrastructure touched by my simian hands.

http://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/02556-east-greenwich-the-home-of-communication/

Anonymous said...

What is the postcode? Am trying to look for area on the net.

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