East London Line: First Contact



Calculon: The year was 2019, and I was just a lowly robot arm working on Project Satan, a savage, intelligent military car built from the most evil parts of the most evil cars in all the world. The steering wheel from Hitler's staff car. The left turn signal from Charles Manson's VW. The windshield wipers from that car that played Knight Rider.
Fry: Knight Rider wasn't evil.
Calculon: His windshield wipers were. It didn't come up much in the show, though. Anyway, only after bringing Project Satan to life did they discover they had made a horrible mistake. For you see, it was pure evil!
- Futurama

Brockley Central is delighted to bring you the first verified photographic evidence that the East London Line train service is coming. Taken in New Cross Gate, here is a train shot on the move and at rest.

Until now, all we had to go on were rumours of sightings and discoveries of abandoned tracks.

So, the question has been answered definitively. The people of Brockley are not alone in the universe. But a greater question remains: do they look more like "tube" trains or "overland" trains?

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Toverland?

Ed said...

70/30 overland/tube

M said...

I have actually been on one of these fabled beasts and they are definitely more tube than overland on the inside. Only roomier.

mouse said...

40/60 overland/tube

Anonymous said...

looks like a tube train to me.

The Cat Man said...

I like orange so i am happy

Monkeyboy said...

We're there any east end crack dealers on board?

Anonymous said...

Tube exterior with - sadly - South Eastern levels of seating.

drakefell debaser said...

From the photographs they look a bit too tall and boxy to closely resemble the trains that run on the Jublilee / Central / Northern Line but quite similar to the District / Hammersmith & Fulham Line trains.

60/40 Overland / tube

Brockley Jon said...

Have seen loads of them om the move in Shoreditch, and also saw one arrive and depart in Forest Hill on Saturday morning, so it must have also visited dearest Brockers.

Tamsin said...

I've got some photos of the inside that I will send to you when I get back home to the computer they are stored on.

Definitely tube - hardly any seats at all.

Anonymous said...

Looks nothing like a tube from the outside, but that's not really the important angle - inside is where it counts.

TM said...

I'll send you a couple of pictures taken at New Cross........at night

Monkeyboy said...

Well I think the ell was a british rail service before lu took it over, now it's not quiet either. I think these are a version of NR type train. The signaling system is to NR standards, the service will be run as a francise type thing. Poor old lou will have a nervous breakdown coping with it's multiple personalities

Anonymous said...

...but utimately it'll be rubbish whatever it is. Apparently.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what they look like as long as they run.

Tamsin said...

They are very busy testing them all and I think each one has to do 2000 miles before it can be passed for passenger service.

Lou Baker said...

I like your intro to this story Nick.

Project Satan sums up the ELL perfectly.

And it's neither a train nor a tube.

It's a turkey.

Anonymous said...

how can it be a turkey?

Brockley Nick said...

@Lou Baker - glad you enjoyed it - I thought the similarity was uncanny.

BCY said...

The trains are electrostar emu models which have similar family running on Southern and SouthEastern services.... The layouts are longitude to accomodate crush and increase capacity, as well as cars being fully "walk through" from one end to another.

There were services running in either direction when I was at Brockley earlier eve around 11:00pm.

BCY

Lep Recorn said...

What is the problem with some people???

The old ELL ran as far as New Cross gate and had some of the oldest and tattiest rolling stock of any part of London's public transport.

The new system will run through Brockley North and South . . . has brand new stock . . . gives us a turn up and go service . . . and some people still ain't happy!!!

Yesterday morning I ran past Brockley station at about 8:10 and noted that the London bound platform was heaving with peeps. I thought - trains have been cancelled and delayed again. Then I thought within a few months that will matter far less as they can always take the ELL and change at Canada Water.

Disclaimer - only an occasional train user - preferring to run or bike when commuting.

Crofton Parker said...

Electrostar Emus? Fantastic! Would also be a good name for a band.

TM said...

Electric Multiple Units.......

Clare said...

They look like electrostars with orange doors, which is what they are.

Fizzy said...

Electrostars (or Capitalstars?) Class 378 they are - and with even less seats than the 376 'mind where you stand' stock. So, M, that's why they are roomier.

Ed said...

Did everyone know that the Brunnel tunnel that forms part of the ELL is open to the public today and tomorrow?

Ed said...

I was most excited to see one of the shiny new trains stop at Brockley on Saturday morning.

I was also suprised my last comment didn't generate any interest at all or did you all know about it already? I didn't make it down the tunnel btw.

Tamsin said...

Brunel tunnel opening - it was open but when you got there you were told you had to get a ticket from the London Transport Museum (none available on the site) or wait in a massive queue in the hope of returns.

Very badly managed and, as usual, totally underestimated the interest and how information about such things whizzes around the electronic communication networks.

My husband had a really frustrating time, obviously could not get there on Friday (work)and totally wasted Saturday trying to go - a frustrating journey by bus there and back, then another recce in the evening when I returned from Suffolk with the car.

You (or Monkeyboy with your transport connections?) don't know if they are doing it again anytime - we have been through slowly on the last ELL trains but a walk through would be wonderful.

Monkeyboy said...

Short of joining the appreticeship scheme not really.

Tamsin said...

Sorry - posted the question on the other thread before I saw this answer.

Anonymous said...

It's a shame it will not open as the East London Line again.

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