East London Line - your reactions

The East London Line opened today with a limited service ahead of going fully operational on May 23rd. Here's some of the initial feedback from BC readers:

Paul said:

Just got the ELL from nxg to shoreditch high street. It took 15 mins. A couple of early observations for what they're worth. The trains feel very spacious, wider than a tube train inside but with the unmistakable feel of a tube. Canada water felt ridiculously close, we'd barely got going and we were there. Shoreditch felt ridiculously close. This is now brockleys back yard. If i worked in in city i'd be rubbing my hands in glee. That is now one seriously easy commute. For the record the last time i got a bus from "ondon bridge to liverpool street it took 35 minutes because of the traffic. The other thing that struck me was how other Londoners will end up coming across the ELL because they'll not be able to ignore it. The station at shoreditch is huge, and in giant letters spell out shoreditch high street. I don't know of another station in london quite as well advertised. For those who want brockley to get noticed, i think it's a certainty. People with see the new stations, the roundels (that look like tube roundels), and they be accepted as part of the network. I was very impressed.

Node said:

I was on the first train to leave NXG today and I was impressed. Like the above post, the trains are very spacious and do not feel like four carriages. The colour scheme of orange and brown is a nice mix of retro and modern and not too garish.The advertising inside is actually fairly muted compared to the normal tubes. The floor being a light grey picks up marks very easily and on my return was already looking fairly used, so it'll be interesting to see how this ages.The train doesn't actually seem to go that fast, I guess doing 10 stops in 20 minutes means there's no real stretch to speed up. The change onto the Jubilee line at Canada Water is literally 30 seconds. I've heard that from the 15th of May there will be a weekend service too. It does feel like a tube and not a train so even if it's not official people will still think of it as one, most people call it the East London Line still rather than the Overground, and hopefully the mixed branding might deter and confuse some from wanting to buy up half the area.

And here are some comments from Twitter:

StellaMagazine Just tried the ELL exciting! Dalston&Crystal Palace awaiting exploration. Nice orange/brown graphic upholstery too.

pradprathivi: Rotherhithe to Shoreditch in 8 MINUTES! Gawd Bless the ELL.

binny_uk: Stations are all very light and airy http://yfrog.com/jkw01wj

mpk: eh, this is some kind of n00b gentrified ELL. I used to ride the real deal - A stock, Shoreditch and all. Kids today

DaveHollander: Sitting on a spanking new ELL train -live tests started today!

kylife: ELL saving my social life!

ianvisits: The train is packed for its first run through.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lou: it's rubbish

Anonymous said...

Sydenham has the new signage up for overground but not at FH HOP or Brockley yet. The lift is also going at Forest Hill!

NXG_Resident said...

Nick, you should lead this article with the rather odd press launch photo of Boris posing inside a new ELL train with a troupe of Bollywood dancers.

Monkeyboy said...

Political correctness gone mad. Should be some pearly kings or possibly a skinny jeaned medja type to reflect the indiginous tribes

sorry, can't be arsed working today

Anonymous said...

I was on the ELL today and like quite a few others got off at Shoreditch - I thought it was great and it felt wonderful to jump on a train at NXG and jump off just by brick lane. I'm very much looking forward to the Brockley service getting up and running.

(P.S the signage and branding is fine - but on the key there are two ways the line is depicted - on some maps a solid orange line - on some a sort of double orange line. Saying that the stations with the roundels look like tube stations, no question. )
Will Brockley get the roundel treatment?

Headhunter said...

Bah humbug, bring back smelly Southern trains to Charing X....

currentbuns said...

Forest Hill has new Overground direction signs on the new footbridge, but nothing elsewhere yet.

Headhunter said...

...BTW does anyone know if we're allowed to take bikes on the new ELL? You can take them on the Tube as long as it's not a deep line, so I assume bikes are OK on the ELL seeing as it doesn't go underground much...

Blunderbuss said...

Wow the seats really are rock hard.

Anonymous said...

I would guess taking bikes on are fine. These trains are much more spacious than a tube.

Anonymous said...

Me and a mate took are bikes on today... so no problem, although I would not take them in rush hour. Got the train from New Cross to Shoreditch.

Anonymous said...

canada water and surrey quays are "ridiculously" close to NXG anyway. Remember NXG and NX were on the ELL before the extension...but we have missed it so much and glad it is nearly back with us again. The bus replacement servcie was useless. I am glad to hear the positive feedback. Spitalfields here we come! AND I can't wait to get to Upper Street Islington in one easy train ride (in another few years)

Lou Baker said...

@anon

I'm sure the new trains and four new stations are lovely.

And I'm sure it's even better on a bright sunny spring day.

But fast forward to a cold, dark, wet December evening when your East London Line train is cancelled because someone got sick at London Bridge and it'll look a bit different.

Still let's celebrate the restoration of services on the old East London Line.

Anonymous said...

Actually I had been thinking that it would serve Can Wharf v well but I now realise that it also goes to SHoreditch/Bethnal Green - call me behind the times - which will be perfect for those working in the (old geographical) City.

It is a million times better than I ever thought it was. How can anyone NOT be enthusiastic about the people, skills and spending power it will bring to our area????

Matt-Z said...

Rode the Overground/ELL/Tube/Fnarg from Whitechapel to New Cross this evening. The unit I was on had the 'First Train' sticker across the front.

A general sprucing up of all the old stations is immediately apparent. Whitechapel in particular has been improved with a new footbridge at the northern end of the platforms.

Ride quality was excellent, but then the track and infrastructure has been totally renewed on the old core section - I doubt it will be quite as good south of New Cross Gate, the same new trains aren't as smooth on the NLL.

The new trains are great, the capacity increase over the old 1960s stock must be significant. Yes, the seats are hard, but I have buns of steel and the journey's only short.

Not many passengers despite it being rush hour, but numbers will only increase over the coming weeks.

All in all it's great. Getting off at New Cross I remembered just how useful the old ELL was. The new, extended and improved version is going to be even more important.

Bats said...

What's really great about the extended ELL is that it re uses existing infrastructure.
Also, I like the train design with no separation of carriages - much better when its really crowded and maybe safer when its not?

Anonymous said...

Though it removes the option of being able to sit in another carriage away from the drunk man who just threw up on the floor

John said...

Does anybody know what the official operating times are at the moment?

tyrwhitt michael said...

Got it for two stops fromm Surrey Quays to New Cross Last night about 7pm.

Felt like a cross between a Networker and a Bendy Bus to me.

Plenty of room last night but will no doubt fill up soon

Tamsin said...

Working in Canada Water my husband finds that it is still quicker to go by bus to the DLR at Deptford Bridge - but there is not much in it and the equation may change when the service is extended into the evening to the times when buses are less frequent.

He did, though, make a point of using it on the first day.

Brockley Nick said...

@Tamsin, your husband goes from Telegraph Hill to Canada Water by getting the bus to the DLR in Deptford?!?

Tamsin said...

Silly me! Canary Wharf!
(well both begin C..W..)

Brockley Nick said...

Ah, makes more sense. So your husband can get from Telegraph Hill to the bus stop and then the bus stop to Deptford DLR, then DLR to Canary Wharf quicker than he can walk to the station, get the train to Canada Water (5 mins) and change one stop (1 min) to Canary Wharf (3 mins)?

That is some bus / DLR service you've got there.

Brockley Nick said...

The DLR journey from Deptford to Canary Wharf takes 13 mins.

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Tamsin said...

It's borderline at present and will change when the frequency of the ELL goes up again. Or maybe it's a matter of the devil one's known for the last two years. I do recall that he was fairly miffed that his firm acquired offices in the docklands the month the ELL closed.

NXG_Resident said...

Okay, I'm about to write my first ELL negative comment, but don't hate me.

From May 23rd, the last daily train southbound from Shoreditch High Street will depart at 23:45...that's incredibly early.

Compare that to the last New Cross, Brockley etc. Southern service at London Bridge which departs long after midnight...

Why can't the ELL run any later?

Brockley Nick said...

Agreed. Boris' penny-pinching?

The Cat Man said...

23:45? I thought that was quite normal for a 'tube like' service is it not?

Whats the journey time to Shoreditch?

Monkeyboy said...

May be to do with having to go all the way to croydon and then back to new cross to stable for the night for cleaning/maintenance. Need a london reconnections geek to tell us. What about our press officer mate at TfL?

An extra half am hour would be great

Sevenoakser said...

Alas not Cat Man - last tubes leave central London between 12.25-12.40am. Old East London line, when it was run as a tube service, was the same.

Anonymous said...

Tube services finish around 00:30

Node said...

23.45!!

Well that sucks! It should definitely be post midnight just half an hour would do it.

I can foresee missed trains and cab/bus rides on the horizon...

Why tarnish our dreams Boris!

Monkeyboy said...

This could actually be an acheivable concession our local politicos could extract from TfL. Last train 12:30ish?

Go Mayor Walton!

Anonymous said...

it's not great but it's not a disaster. For a mega easy way to get home I van bear leaving half an hour early. Journey time to Shoreditch HS from NXG is 15 minutes so I guess Brockley will be 18 mins.

NXG_Resident said...

Well...the last train from NXG Northbound leaves at 23:56pm and that will have to come back down to the depot, so that effectively rules out Monkeyboy's theory.

Mb said...

Not down to croydon and then back to the depot? That would mean that the last trains do not serve the far south? Train geeks, find us an answer please

Anonymous said...

You've got to remember this ISNT a tube line - it works the same way as the North London Line, DC Lines etc in that its run on Network Rail infrastructure and when that closes for the night and suburban services stop, so does the LO.

Monkeyboy said...

But network rail do run later from LB? if there's a sound technical reason then fine, be good to challenge them though to see if there's a chance.

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