New London Bridge Quarter

The Shard's baby sister has a new website and has been christened The Place. Together with a vastly improved public realm and bus station, the two buildings form London Bridge Quarter, replacing what was once one of the most soul-crushing parts of the capital.

For Brockley commuters using London Bridge, the site has a few nice images of the new station that we haven't seen before.

58 comments:

Tamsin said...

Lovely picture - but can we also have one on a wet day in November with litter blowing around...

Brockley Nick said...

No

max said...

And no to casually dressed people, older people...

Tamsin said...

Actually - on casual dress - nearly everyone on the first picture on the website is in shirt-sleeves. Obviously another scorching summer day so that you can show off how well your drafting software does shadows.

(and, Nick, the question was rhetorical...)

Brockley Nick said...

So was the answer

Against Big Buildings said...

I've had enough of this overdevelopment of the London skyline - it must stop. Seventeen floors, where's that supposed to go? Will we lose sight of St Paul's for ever!?

Brockley Nick said...

Are you joking?

Against Big Buildings said...

Absolutely not! This is all about corporate London pushing at the edges of Brockley. It's a creeping paralysis of the worst kind. And it's all so crafty and sly the way it's presented. Did this actually get planning permission?

Brockley Nick said...

Phew, I thought you were serious.

EVEN MORE AGAINST BIG BUILDINGS said...

Thank god you're joking Nick. I can tell that you too are up in arms about Quatari oil wealth drowning the voices of protest groups. Skyscraper London: never.

Brockley Nick said...

What protest groups are they? Planning permission secured long before any Qatari involvement (not that there's anything wrong with Qataris).

And of course, it's shorter than the building it replaced...

Anonymous said...

There's something odd about all this...

Osh said...

Could you be more specific anon :)

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Mb said...

I'm so glad Christopher wren stuck two fingers up to those who didn't like his massive dome. There would have been someone, sure as eggs is eggs.

Anonymous said...

Comments removed. How curious...?

Reg said...

As long as they don't block the view of St Paul's.

Mb said...

London is not a theme park, it's a living, breathing, changing city.

[monkeyboy is mostly NOT in the pay of dodgy middle eastern developers]

Brockley Nick said...

No, St Paul's has tightly protected sightlines and from Brockley, the stately dome will be visible.

To reiterate, the building in question is lower than the one that got knocked down and lower than the two other buildings next door.

Anonymous said...

They must be power types to have comments removed like that. Frightening stuff. And Mb could just be saying that to throw us off the scent!

TheOracle said...

I think you may have your facts wrong. Sellar Properties is an English Company, associated with "DP9" - not much known there -which is making significant inroads in the future shape of London.

POTUS said...

So God said, "Come, let us go down and confound their speech."

Anonymous said...

And not a dark face in the bloody picture once more!

Sorrow said...

Yeah... this is called trust building via social media. I've been looking into this for some time. Imagine you're walking along Oxford Street. A man appears. He presents a box of jewellery. All 'kosha' he assures - save for VAT. He let's it be known it's off the back of a lorry. You're unsure about the purchase but two women standing close 'buy' shove in and look at the dodgy goods declaring them to be the best 100-carrot gold they've seen. They dive in and and make the purchase... only they don't move from the stall, winking at you enthusiastically about the purchase. (Theyre called "the Ricks" as in Richard the Thirds, birds.) Trust built, you makes your purchase.
Same action different name: trust building.

Bugs Bunny said...

Where can I get me some of that 100 carrot gold?

max said...

There's nothing wrong with openly supporting developments that you like especially given the strong economic significance for London.

I have to say, I am normally indifferent to big developments but the Shard looks interesting actually and this little one looks just like a small annex to the Shard and not at all out of place for its location.

Anyway, it is indeed depressing that there isn't one dark face in the picture and neither there is one in the latest Loampit Vale newsletter and that's a bit worse because it's not backed by oil money but by Lewisham Council and tax money, and lots of it.

Lou Baker said...

The Shard is clearly a fantastic building - I look at it almost everyday and marvel.

Not like that horrid tower at Elephant and Castle which has partly blocked the view of the Millennium
Wheel from Telegraph Hill Park.

And not like St Paul's - which is one of the most over-rated buildings on the planet. It's a frigging church. There are hundreds of them - all designed to appeal to society's nuts. Those people who believe there is not only actually a god but the best way to honour him is to sing twee songs to him on a Sunday morning. Seriously. Knock it down and build something useful instead.

Tim said...

The Qatari's made an equity investment in the project when it was floundering due to the credit crunch. They had no involvement in design or planning, and are passive investors. To those who feel the need to mention them, please know your facts before doing so. It borders slightly on racism.

Tim said...

Lou, Do you really want to knock down St Pauls, or are you just saying it to get a reaction?

max said...

Lou's on a roll today, the dismissal of Goldsmiths was just a taster, now he consigned millenia of religious art and architecture to the dustbin of history.
Give us one on the Queen now, see if you can top Frankie Boyle.

Danja said...

I don't want to knock it down but I have a lot of sympathy for the view behind that particular rhetorical flourish.

Danja said...

As for the queen, no need to knock anything down - some gentle title and asset stripping would consign that to a suitably deferential place in history. Unless you like being a subject.

Mb said...

Sadly some people, perhaps most? do like being a subject or can't quiet grasp the difference between that and being a citizen. Personally i'm investing in one of these http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12551726

But to get back on topic, you can admire both the shard and st pauls. It's not an either/or discussion.

Anonymous said...

"And not a dark face in the picture once more"

What are we looking for here, a building or spot-the-minority?

Len said...
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max said...

I'm looking at a picture with buildins and people that are supposed to represent who will use the buildings.
Believe me, people think about what the people in a visual like that look like when producing the artworks.

Danja said...

you can admire both the shard and st pauls. It's not an either/or discussion.

Well, not at that site, when it was approved. Try a whole load of other sites where economic development is inhibited for the sake of sightlines of the anachronistic (but impressive, for its day) temple.

Anonymous said...

you can't see St Paul's from Brockley!

Tressilliana said...

Way to go, Lou. I don't understand why the Athenians have put up with that pile of rubble in the centre of the city for so long. The marble could be re-used and a shopping mall built on that prime site.

PS Completely agree about the visuals - shocking that the only people visible are white! Even more shocking that the Loampit Vale developers are making the same stupid mistake.

Tamsin said...

@ Anon 00.45 - you can from Nunhead Cemetery, Telegraph Hill and One Tree Hill. (But not from my back window - just the finials at either end of the building when you look with binoculars. The iconic dome itself has the dog with the smoking ear that is Guys bang slap in front of it!)

@ Lou - it's not typically a church. For those with faith a church is wherever they find God, for Pentecostalists the community hall they use, for early Methodists the windswept moor or market cross. For those without faith St Paul's is, by most people's standards, a lovely building (especially from the outside - not sold on the interior) and by anybody's standards a tourist attraction and symbol of London. Keep the sight lines (and I hope the interests of the South East are recognised too - not just those who live on the posh heights of Islington and Hampstead).

@ Anon 22.45 If we are being shown the building just do that - in this sort of artist's impression for those like me who can't readily convert plans and elevations into a 3D image. Don't waste your expensive time putting in people (we know what they look like). If, conversely, you want to sell am image of the building in use don't re-inforce outdated stereotypes. (Especially in Loampit Vale - I share your shock, Tressiliana.)

Lou Baker said...

@tamsin

London has some nice churches - which are okay to look at from the outside.

I personally don't find St Paul's one of them. I think it is massively over-rated.

To my mind it's not one of our great buildings - unlike the Palace of Westminster, St Pancras Station, the Guildhall or the Tower.

I know some people like it, they're just misguided.

Tamsin said...

@ Lou - de gustibus... Although I agree with you about the other buildings you mention. Nevertheless more people photograph St. Pauls than St. Pancras.

Brought up in the Cotswolds and with my father several years working for Gloucester Cathedral a church is not a church unless it it is Early English or Perp. and built of limestone. It has taken me years to get acclimatised to the very different church architecture in London. I do now like ones such St. Augustines on One Tree Hill - which is nice from the inside too and hosts nice concerts - and I was rather dismayed by the grey and yellow paintwork on the kentish ragstone church along Lee High Road. On the other hand even that has grown on me over the past few years since it happened.

Headhunter said...

You CAN see St Pauls from Brockley, certainly you can from the upper floors of houses on Manor Ave. You can easily see the dome of St Pauls from my upstairs neighbours kitchen as long as it's not foggy....

Anonymous said...

as far as I'm aware planning permision in Brockley cannot be refused because your view of St Pauls is obscured.

Anonymous said...

I've sent an email to the Renaissance people asking why there are no people who aren't white. I'm not that convinced they'll reply.
Although to be fair to them I don't expect to see a girl in a bikini rollerblading or a cat just sitting there as shown in the sales brochure!

Anonymous said...

The online home for all things Brockley (SE4), St John's, Ladywell, Nunhead and Telegraph Hill


There are many places of Christian worship in the area this blog represents, surely posts with name calling should be deleted.

Osh said...

what name calling?

Anonymous said...

Lou Baker
20:59

WWJD said...

What being called a 'nut' deserves censorship?

Turn the other cheek and forgive Lou.

Osh said...

wasn't talking about anyone specific was he

Anonymous said...

http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/D6A3E407-F442-46B6-B952-F0BAF2C07212/0/TheReligionandBeliefEqualityScheme200811WebFINAL.pdf

Welcome to 2011 said...

You might need to spell out your point a bit. What is your argument? That any criticism of any religion should be deleted because there are religious people in Lewisham?

If that's your point it's not a very good one.

Tamsin said...

Did anyone see the piece in the Standard last week about the builders having to call in pest control because a fox had got up to the 72nd floor? It seems they were two weeks trying to catch it. Story also picked up by The Sun last Friday - headline writers had their usual fun: "How the Fox he got up there?" "Fantastic Vista Fox" and "Head Fur Heights".

(Disclaimer: I found a copy lying round in the community centre my office is attached to. Didn't buy it.)

Brockley Nick said...

Fantastic vista fox is brilliant.

TM said...

Tamsin

You may need to get out more.

The Standard is no longer Daily Mail lite having been sold to Alexander Lebedev. The editorial policy is left-ish of centre-ish. He also owns the Independent and The i.

Oh and it's free.

Tamsin said...

It was The Sun that I did not want to be associated with.

TM said...

I'll get my coat..........

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