Surrey Canal regeneration application submitted

Developers "Renewal New Bermondsey Two" have submitted to Lewisham Council their application for their Surrey Canal masterplan.


The project suffered a setback last year when it was confirmed that the East London Line extension to Clapham Junction would not include a station at Surrey Canal. Nonetheless, the developers pledged to plough on - and here we are.

It's 10 hectares, 250,000 square metres of floorspace, a new sports centre, a hotel and lots of other goodies.

While the development site is a colossal waste of central London, we're just not convinced by the master plan or the visuals. That's not based on a careful consideration of the application and we'd love to be proved wrong, but neither the 'sports village' concept nor the accompanying visuals seem... plausible.

19 comments:

Elephant & Chips said...

Alight here for the Recycling Centre

patrick1971 said...

What will be going on at the "multifaith centre"? Scientology personality tests on the first floor, room facing Mecca on the ground floor, chapel on the second?

Brockley Nick said...

Usually means something a bit like a community centre, where you can conduct various types of ceremonies (eg: blessings) and it's faith-neutral (eg: no crucifixes on the wall, etc).

Tamsin said...

They don't rule out the station - indeed the e-mail from Renewal to Stephen McGann at NXGT appealing for comment on the scheme says that it "will provide...new station at Surrey Canal Road, on the East London Line phase 2 extension" - although I suppose that might be slightly disingenous of them.

Brockley Nick said...

@Tamsin, of course the developers don't rule out the station, but the fact is that there will not now be one built in time for the line to open and - if there is ever one built - it will have to be paid for by them, possibly with some support from Lewisham Council.

If one IS ever built, it will also cost a lot more, because they will have to build it around an operational line and they will have to recruit a new design team, etc.

That counts as a setback, whichever way you look at it.

Tamsin said...

Agreed - it was absolutely stupid of the powers that be and a major kick in the teeth for the whole area. I was hoping when I saw the e-mail that there had been some U-turn we had not heard about - but the detailed document just says on-going discussion.

Michael Abrahams said...

Some interesting analysis on London Reconnections:
http://londonreconnections.blogspot.com/2011/02/surrey-canal-road-sporting-chance.html

In light of the accessibility benefits of the station, Renewal are prepared to enter into a commitment to provide the net additional funding required to deliver the station. This commitment should reflect that there may be other sources of funding that can be made available for the new station and that there should be the potential for a ‘claw back’ should this materialise from any other sources.

mb said...

I read that, it's a bit of a cagey answer. Not a 'no' but some way from a 'yes'. As the Blog says, if they miss the boat and the line is running the cost will be much higher and the bussiness case will be weakened as it will need to take into account the cost of disruption to the new service.

New Cross Kirsten said...

I live in an area adjacent to this development and have serious concerns about the design (several skyscraper-high rises) and sheer density of residential units proposed. Also the impact that 2,500 new homes will have on local services: roads, health care, education; judging by previous developments, Lewisham Council seems unable/unwilling to exact a reasonable sum from developers to improve the infrastructure affected by such new developments.
Previous online posts refer to this area 'as a dump': whilst it is someway from the leafy idyll of Brockley, you may be surprised to learn than cultured human beings do reside here, and many of us are as fed up as glass identikit monoliths as you are. Building more housing units is not the only way to improve and regenerate an area. As one poster, Kevin, said, yuppified chain coffee bars are not the only way forward. 300 small businesses exist here already - why not develop these and create a new 'green industry' zone, for example. As for brownfield sites: they may not look so obviously pretty as woodland but they have been shown to be magnificent biodiverse urban habitats , especially for invertebrates. As a humble resident, I would like to see my immediate environment made greener and cleaner: we need more green spaces, not more concrete.
If anyone feels the same way I'd appreciate if you could respond to the consultation which has to be in by March 14. The Council seems politically committed to this decision so the only way it could be mitigated/improved/rejected is if a campaign is formed against it. It may only be of mild interest to some of you but for residents here, it will be something that will directly affect us and we would appreciate some support!

Anonymous said...

The loss of the station is a real problem with the scheme, I used to live round the corner (another one of those cultured types who live/lived there) but moved to Brockley just recently. The traffic at that end of the old kent road/new cross road is truly awful and without an increase in viable public transport, I can't see how it will succeed.

Anonymous said...

Renewal New Bermondsey Two is a David Sullivan company. He worked with the Renewal Group boss Mushtapha Malik at Serviceteam. Is Jack Petchey / Galliard are buying the land ? as they are backing Renewal. Be nice to see some good sports facilities, but that won't happen if Sport UK don't back the plan.

Anonymous said...

Nothing changes... remember this :-

BARCKLEY SUMNER QUESTIONS have been raised about the controversial business interests of Dave Sullivan, the leader of Labour-controlled Lewisham council.
Mr Sullivan, who hopes to become the first directly-elected mayor 'of a London borough, • came to prominence in the mid-1990s when he founded Serviceteam, which specialises in outsourcing council services.
Serviceteam acquired the refuse contract for the London Borough of Wandsworth and then became involved in a long dispute with general union GMB.
Since ending his association with Serviceteam, Mr Sullivan has helped to set up six companies, all of which have specialised in recruitment, but only one of which has ever filed accounts.
In 1997, he became a director of The Consulting House and then of On-Site Managed Services. The Consulting House was dissolved in 1999 after failing to produce any accounts.
Currently, On-Site Managed Services has an administration order against it, also for failing to produce accounts.
hi June 1998, Mr Sullivan founded Onsite Recruitment Ltd — which has filed accounts. It supplied staff to Serviceteam at the same time as the latter was bidding for a number of contracts in Lewisham.
Onsite Recruitment gave interest-free loans to two other recruitment companies: £64,857 to Will Shade Recruitment Ltd and £32,722 to Liberty Recruitment Ltd. Mr Sullivan resigned as a director of Onsite Recruitment in August.
Soon after the loan was given to Liberty, Mr Sullivan became one of its directors. Two other directors of Onsite Recruitment, Michael Checkley and Janet Rayner, have been directors of Will Shade — the accounts of which have yet to be filed. Liberty's accounts were due to be filed on October 6.
Mr Sullivan has also set up another recruitment company, Parker Personnel.
Some observers have called into question the practice of the same directors constantly setting up so many similar companies. The absence of accounts suggests the value of the assets may be limited In order for Mr Sullivan not to be in breach of the Local Government and. Housing Act, he will need to have declared all his his directorships to Lewisham council. The Act requires councillors to declare all financial interests within four weeks of acquiring them.
Lewisham was one of six local authorities that held referendums this week on whether to introduce a directly-elected mayor.
If the borough votes "Yes", Mr Sullivan would be subject to internal Labour Party vetting before being approved as a mayoral candidate. He is likely to face a challenge from former Lewisham leader Steve Bullock.

Paphides35 said...

Dodgy Dave Sullivan has over 60 companies and now double teamed Spysznyk again in Loca Ventures Limited.Properly another property scam to catch somebody out.

eddcman said...

Dave Sullivan is still at his old games. His latest outfit is Loca Ventures Limited and Place Advisory Limited. Think he has some investors in East Devon interested in a holiday hotel. His sidekick Spysznyk has been subbed for James Hetherington. He's not on Renewal stuff anymore. He is linked to a company called SIB Global Trading inc - in the British Virgin Islands. There's one for the Revenue.

TaxMan said...

Sullivans has had 80 companies now - all dissolved. How was he ever mayor of Lewisham ?

Seaton concerned said...

re Seaton heights

Bambi said...

seaton heights hotel ?

BatMan said...

Has Tammany hall got bats ?

Sid said...

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