Family Fun Day at the Stephen Lawrence Centre Today

The Stephen Lawrence Centre
39 Brookmill Road
October 9th, 12pm - 4pm

The centre is organising a day of activities today from midday, providing an opportunity to explore this amazing building.

With thanks to Ophelia for the heads-up.


John said...

Having toured this building during 'Open House' I can say that it's only 'amazing' (if that) from the outside. It was built cheaply but strangely at an exorbitant cost.

Anonymous said...

Why bother posting such a negative comment? In my opinion, the building is amazing - it works really well, is fun to be in and is fit for purpose.
It is a bit of a 'strange' shape but I believe this is because of restrictions on the 'foot-print' of the building. The land was donated by Thames Water but because one of SE Londons main pipes runs underneath it they still need to have access in an emergency, hence the shape of the building.
Your comment about a community resource built as a legacy to a dead teenager makes you appear very mean spirited...

Anonymous said...

Architects do not respond well to criticism at the best of times. That combined with fact it commemorates the victim of a racist murder puts this building in a special category where the two issues are clearly combined.

I am sure the little tykes will enjoy running around.

Anonymous said...

it is quite possibly the worst building in London. Ironic considering its purpose.

Anonymous said...

No it isn't and if it was it wouldn't be ironic. A minus D for that, must try harder

Anonymous said...

It is extremely ugly though.

Anonymous said...

the original Victorian building on the site was far superior. They should have adapted that building.

Anonymous said...

Well others thought differently. Are you of the Prince Charles school? It's center to encourage budding architects, a converted conventional building is hardly likley to do that so would not fit the brief. Think about it...

I like it, you don't. I get it, you miss the point.

Anonymous said...

I quite liked the old building as well.

Maybe if more architects learnt to appreciate the positive lessons of the past rather that seeing new developments as the vehicle for their own egos then we would have a better standard of building.

At the top end it is really a very arrogant profession - a world away from the vast majority of people who work in that business who deal with the drivel from the top.

A good restoration job could have been done on the old building.

Prince Charles views seem quite reasonable. He says a great deal about community involvement, which I would have thought would have been appropriate in this case.

Brockley Nick said...

Yes,Prince Charles. Now there's a guy who's in touch with the common man.

How can you go from criticising architects for being too aloof straight to praising Prince Charles and (presumably) keep a straight face?

Anonymous said...

I would have thought being aloof is a definite advantage when dealing with architects at the top of that profession. They are hardly interested in the people who live and work in the buildings they design.

I am sure a lot of those billionare developers and their pet architects really wish he would give up with all that community nonesense.

Brockley Nick said...

There's two separate points here:

1. Are archictects disconnected from "real people" that have to live and use their buildings?

Maybe a little bit, it's an old argument, though if they areit's not because they're all millionaires. By the time you're a "starchitect", you're not really doing the hard work yourself, you're reliant on an army of more junior architects, many of whom will be quite poorly paid. If there's a disconnect, it's cos architects are people who spend all their time thinking about buildings, whereas most of us still prefer pitched roofs and red-bricks.

2. Is Prince Charles more in-tune with "real people" and thus knows better?

No and no.

Anonymous said...

I think you have to seperate the person from the idea they are expressing.

It is quite easy to deride Proce Charles as slightly absurd figure, nonetheless he mades an important point that there should be more community involvement in architectural projects and the planning process.

Plenty of people share that opinion, it seems perfectly sensible, and those who design monumental building projects need to be reminded of that fact.

Goodness knows we have plenty of examples of awful buildings to contend with. People should have their say.

This particular building was not as nice as what went before it, but then the new buildings going up further up the road are not looking particularly nice.

More utilitarian yuppie sleeping boxes?

Comrad Monkeyboy said...

plenty of people share his opinion. Yes, plenty of people share mine and yours. He's in an unelected position of influence. Part of that unwritten contract is that he keeps those opinions to himself. If he wants to go into politics, stand down from the succession and stand for election.

Brockley Nick said...

@Anon - I sort of accept your broader point (although I think there are lots of good modern buildings and there were plenty of bad old ones), I'm just saying that Prince Charles is not a good person to hold up in contrast to the architects.

As for his call for more community involvement, that's rich coming from the bloke who recently derailed an entire masterplan by using his power and influence behind the scenes.

Headhunter said...

I'm glad that Prince Charles speaks up, but then perhaps that's because I somewhat agree with some of the points he makes, I suppose if he were calling for the razing of London to the ground to be rebuilt in steel and glass I would want him to shut his face....

Brockley Nick said...

Precisely, HH.

He's either heir to the throne, in which case he is behaving unconstitutionally, or he isn't - in which case his views are of no more importance than Catman's.

Anonymous said...

Sadly, there seems to be a marked absence of anyone else in the political/cultural establishment that holds architects to account.

Beind the architects are, of course, the egotistical plutocrats for whom these are gradiose monuments to their sway over public and business life.

Better for an unelected person in a position of influence to keep quiet about the excesses of other unelected persons in a position of influence?

Or should we wait for some heroic man of the people to emerge and press the case for community involvement?

They seem a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

.....this sort of thing has reality TV potential.

Britains next Staritect.

Prince Charles heading a panel of architectural luminaries sitting in judgement of fresh new talent. Maybe we could get Ken Livingstone to get involved given his relevant experience as the anatomical model for a notable piece of architectural innovation. Maybe another man of the people is needed with a slightly different tack. Alan Sugar is the obvious choice to provide a bit business nous and no nonsense assement of the quality.

Now, don't any of you steal this idea!

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